Western Suburbs Churches Cricket Association

[forward defence]

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Yeah you're are probably right, that's why I had him (VC) first. Although not convinced on last years result, I was at the ground during both games and the word was that there were two very different decks during that game. Everybody that I have spoken to has said, last years premiership was won on the toss of a coin.

Have a look at the results during the season head to head! I know finals is a different story but like I said it was apparantly one on the toss of the coin.

What about any other selections, should anyone be in ahead of anyone else?

please let those blokes cyring to you abot the coin toss and the two different decks they are more than welcome to come around and use thier tears to help me polish my preimership medal.

 

[wait there!!!]

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please let those blokes cyring to you abot the coin toss and the two different decks they are more than welcome to come around and use thier tears to help me polish my preimership medal.

Ha ha ha great call.....@|@|

 

[StAndrewsman]

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the squads people are putting up are very interesting, maybe they are the best of last season. has everyone thought that maybe these guys might hav terrible seasons this coming one, or they might do an iinjury or not play at all in this comp? what about new players coming in? what about caroline springs and melton south players (if they move up)? just saying that you guys are going on about who should be captain etc, they have to make the squad first

also no1 answered my question on what this side is, whats the carrnival thing about? where is it played? usual questions

 

[hono]

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ask your dad

 

[1short]

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Seeing that they usually pick a squad of 14, here is mine:

Daniel Temby (Capt), M. Callus (V/C), J. Temby, Atul Bhasin, R. Mustafa, H. Uppal, B. Flood, M. Hayes, A. Lewis, N. Parish, B. Shearson, J. Draper, C. Dine & J. Orr

not a bad squad cover drive, but i'll have a go at one with some changes.... d.temby (c), M.callus (vc), b.flood, m.hayes, h.uppal, r.mustafa, a.bashin, a.lewis, n.parish, j.draper, j.orr, w.gannaway, r.davis, a.eastley. i might have too many bowlers in there but a few are all rounders, like temby, callus and uppal. or drop a bowler for b.shearson??? anyway i think that will be a competative team.

 

[tayls]

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I agree. We won the turf premiership because we played two decent games of cricket, not because of the wicket. You can only play on what is put in front of you at any time, and even on a bad deck if you're good enough you should be competitive.

As for the carnival side I think you need to look at who is a better leader and how they go about it. I am sure Mick Callus might be a good leader because he talks to his team alot, but sometimes I think it is better to say good words rather than bad. It is called positive reinforcement.

I can tell you that Playing for Danny Temby is a different experience because he leads through his actions rather than his words. When he needs to talk he does so, but it is always positive and rather than berate blokes for making mistakes he lets everyone know what needs to be improved as a team.

Maybe they need to look at having co-captains? Who knows, it just might work.

 

[wait there!!!]

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I agree. We won the turf premiership because we played two decent games of cricket, not because of the wicket. You can only play on what is put in front of you at any time, and even on a bad deck if you're good enough you should be competitive.

As for the carnival side I think you need to look at who is a better leader and how they go about it. I am sure Mick Callus might be a good leader because he talks to his team alot, but sometimes I think it is better to say good words rather than bad. It is called positive reinforcement.

I can tell you that Playing for Danny Temby is a different experience because he leads through his actions rather than his words. When he needs to talk he does so, but it is always positive and rather than berate blokes for making mistakes he lets everyone know what needs to be improved as a team.
Maybe they need to look at having co-captains? Who knows, it just might work.

Tayls,

Are you saying Mick berates his team when they have done a mistake?
I have been involved in a couple of matches with Mick and haven't seen him do that, I know he loves to get into guys heads when they are batting but not his team mates?
Also you mention that Danny leads through actions rather than words...... have you had a chance to see what Mick did last year. Mick was one of the main contributers last year, so I'm not sure where you are going with your post?

Danny is obviously a top bloke and a great leader and with his history and experience within the comp he would be a better option for Captain but IMO your post doesn't have much substance.

I think they would compliment each other in the same team, they would do a much better job then the bloke we have just appointed, but time will tell I may be proven wrong...... I doubt it!|@

 

[tayls]

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Wait There,

You could be right. Maybe I am thinking about the verbal stoushes he likes to have with opposition players. Point taken.
What I can say about Callus is that he doesn't like getting the stuff back he is given, and sometimes he can be disrespectful to his opponents. I say this because of a particular comment he made about who the captain was at St Johns and I think this came back to bite him. To his credit though, he plays hard but always shakes hands when it is done and dusted.

I guess everyone has a leadership style that they work better under and I know that I would prefer to play for DT any day, but maybe it would work better for DT to be able to focus on playing the game and have somebody else take over the reigns for a while and Mick Callus could be the right bloke to do it.

Only time will tell.

 

[1short]

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I agree. We won the turf premiership because we played two decent games of cricket, not because of the wicket. You can only play on what is put in front of you at any time, and even on a bad deck if you're good enough you should be competitive.

As for the carnival side I think you need to look at who is a better leader and how they go about it. I am sure Mick Callus might be a good leader because he talks to his team alot, but sometimes I think it is better to say good words rather than bad. It is called positive reinforcement.

I can tell you that Playing for Danny Temby is a different experience because he leads through his actions rather than his words. When he needs to talk he does so, but it is always positive and rather than berate blokes for making mistakes he lets everyone know what needs to be improved as a team.

Maybe they need to look at having co-captains? Who knows, it just might work.

tayls, we all know that you're a st johns man and will stick up for dan, but i think your comments about mick are way off the mark. mick is a great leader and leads by example. but saying he berates teammates is wrong. he is passionate about his cricket and when he speaks you can hear it in his voice. just because he raises his voice it does'nt mean he is berating someone. also some players need to be treated with care and dont need much motivation, but there are some who need a rocket up them to get them going. its a hard job getting the right mix but i think mick has it worked out. having said that, i think dan should be the captain of the carnival team because by all reports, he did a great job last carnival and should be rewarded for that.

 

[wait there!!!]

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tayls, we all know that you're a st johns man and will stick up for dan, but i think your comments about mick are way off the mark. mick is a great leader and leads by example. but saying he berates teammates is wrong. he is passionate about his cricket and when he speaks you can hear it in his voice. just because he raises his voice it does'nt mean he is berating someone. also some players need to be treated with care and dont need much motivation, but there are some who need a rocket up them to get them going. its a hard job getting the right mix but i think mick has it worked out. having said that, i think dan should be the captain of the carnival team because by all reports, he did a great job last carnival and should be rewarded for that.

Well said 1short,
My thoughts are the same as yours.......@|

 

[tayls]

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Wait There and 1Short,

Good to see some level heads on here.

I guess I make my comments about Mick C based on what I have seen and heard when playing against him, and I am happy to concede that having not played for him I probably shouldn't comment on the type of leader he is.
And 1Short, I agree that different people require different things from leader; some need a little encouragement and some need a rocket. I should know being a teacher after all.

And yes you guys are right, I have heard DT did a great job at the carnival last time and probably should be rewarded again, but on the flip side maybe leadership from Mick might be a good thing. A change is as good as a holiday so some people say! Passion is a great thing in sport and it sounds like both DT and Mick Callus share it for cricket.

Always good to have healthy discussion. Cheers Guys

 

[Howz_That?]

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I don't see why there is any real discussion on the leadership of the carnival team, Daniel Temby was named Captain of the Australian Representative XI at the last carnival therefore your not going to take the leadership of the WSUCCA team away from him. Mick C might have done a good job last year at Congs however his leadership under pressure was probably questioned in the semi final therefore he still has to prove himself in pressure situations if he is going to even be considered to captain a carnival side. Not having a go at him personally just something that will come with more leadership experience.

 

[Howz_That?]

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not a bad squad cover drive, but i'll have a go at one with some changes.... d.temby (c), M.callus (vc), b.flood, m.hayes, h.uppal, r.mustafa, a.bashin, a.lewis, n.parish, j.draper, j.orr, w.gannaway, r.davis, a.eastley. i might have too many bowlers in there but a few are all rounders, like temby, callus and uppal. or drop a bowler for b.shearson??? anyway i think that will be a competative team.

D.Temby (C), M.Callus (VC), B.Flood, M.Hayes, H.Uppal, J.Temby, A.Hullet, R. Schafer (All Australian at last carnival and still doing well), R. Davis, W.Kiely, J.Orr, L.Edwards, J.Draper, T.Murray

Strong batting, varied bowling, good mix of youth and experience but most of all toughness.

 

[cover drive]

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Just had a look at Roosters web site, their poor turn out was because of who their coach is???

http://altonaroosters.cricketvictoria.com.au/

 

[reg]

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D.Temby (C), M.Callus (VC), B.Flood, M.Hayes, H.Uppal, J.Temby, A.Hullet, R. Schafer (All Australian at last carnival and still doing well), R. Davis, W.Kiely, J.Orr, L.Edwards, J.Draper, T.Murray

Strong batting, varied bowling, good mix of youth and experience but most of all toughness.

hi all, this is my 1st post guys so be nice to me. howz that, i see you have included some players who are not playing in the turf grade. i dont think thats the way to go. they might have good stats but you need to remember that they are playing against most teams 2nds and roosters 3rds, also bowling with 2 piece balls on matting. i dont think this warrants selection considering the standard they will be asked to play against. also you have picked 2 legies, if you think 2 spinners are needed, maybe an off spnr might be the way to go??? you state your team has toughness, well i think you have left the best middle order batsmen out of the team - dave temby - once he is in he is very hard to get out. and another player you have left out who is probly the toughest to play against (and maybe the most hated prick) is reg mustafa. would be able to keep up to mick callus and is a better keeper than adem hullet. anyone agree or disagree with any of this pls let me know. cheers guys

 

[Howz_That?]

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hi all, this is my 1st post guys so be nice to me. howz that, i see you have included some players who are not playing in the turf grade. i dont think thats the way to go. they might have good stats but you need to remember that they are playing against most teams 2nds and roosters 3rds, also bowling with 2 piece balls on matting. i dont think this warrants selection considering the standard they will be asked to play against. also you have picked 2 legies, if you think 2 spinners are needed, maybe an off spnr might be the way to go??? you state your team has toughness, well i think you have left the best middle order batsmen out of the team - dave temby - once he is in he is very hard to get out. and another player you have left out who is probly the toughest to play against (and maybe the most hated prick) is reg mustafa. would be able to keep up to mick callus and is a better keeper than adem hullet. anyone agree or disagree with any of this pls let me know. cheers guys

Dave Temby is a gun but his body wouldn't hold up to 5 straight days of cricket, if it could I would have him in the side ahead of Edwards. I chose two spinners who are very different bowlers whilst both leggies they have different variations and no off spinners stand out, possibly Upal. Kiely can only play in the grade his team is in, he has dominated the A grade comp and would do well in the Turf comp therefore I picked him. As for Reg, his batting lets him down too much and as a keeper you need to be able to do well and be an option up the order. Hullet demonstrated last year that his batting has improved and he could fulfill that role. Just my opinion though.

 

[wait there!!!]

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Dave Temby is a gun but his body wouldn't hold up to 5 straight days of cricket, if it could I would have him in the side ahead of Edwards. I chose two spinners who are very different bowlers whilst both leggies they have different variations and no off spinners stand out, possibly Upal. Kiely can only play in the grade his team is in, he has dominated the A grade comp and would do well in the Turf comp therefore I picked him. As for Reg, his batting lets him down too much and as a keeper you need to be able to do well and be an option up the order. Hullet demonstrated last year that his batting has improved and he could fulfill that role. Just my opinion though.

Dave Temby WAS a gun.....
He is retired anyway....... isn't he????

 

[forward defence]

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Dave Temby WAS a gun.....
He is retired anyway....... isn't he????

Dave Temby IS a gun

and you blokes can keep wishing that he isnt going to play this year
but ive got bad news for you.

 

[Howz_That?]

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Dave Temby WAS a gun.....
He is retired anyway....... isn't he????

Dave Temby is going to play again in a bid to go back to back with St. Johns. He wouldn't qualify to play in the 'Old Boys' team as he would bring down the average age by about 10 years haha

 

[Giveitup]

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Dave Temby IS a gun

and you blokes can keep wishing that he isnt going to play this year
but ive got bad news for you.

Are you serious mate?
Dave Temby playing this season or not is the last thing from everyone's mind. Good Luck to the bloke either way but dont come on here telling us that we wish. First you brag about Daniel now Dave...you can calm down now.
St Johns won the flagg last season and all of a sudden you have every man and his dog from St Johns talking them up on here.
Where were you blokes before then?

Dave Temby great player....NO GUN!!!!!!!