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Yeh, as with Adam Gilchrist, you probably won't look as graceful as the smaller keepers even if you are just as good, but if you get the job done it doesn't matter in the end.
 
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Just like other players, Justin Langer, his batting may not be pretty, but by god it is effective. Its all about if you take the catches in the end, not how flashy you look doing it
 
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Hi guys, how is it going?

This is a question for Liz, I went to a chiropractor on Saturday for my back problems and he told me that I have scoliosis and in my case, my spine is bent to the left at an angle of 15 degrees.....so he performed electronic acupuncture to relieve the pain among other things and gave me some stretches and exercises to do.

So my question to you is, since it is now known that I have scoliosis, would bowling or wicketkeeping affect it? if so, explain. I already asked him if bowling or wicketkeeping would affect it. so I am asking you the same question to compare the answers. By affect I mean make it worse.
 
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Before I can answer this WBK, I need to know a little more.

Is this noticeable with the eye?

If so, is it more noticeable this year than last year?

Has it been suggested that you wear a brace?

If so, how many hours a day?


Sorry, after thoughts:
Was this diagnosed as Idiopathic Scoliosis?
Is there a discrepancy in the length of your legs?
The more information you can give me the better I can answer your question.
 
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Yes, it is noticeable with the eye.

This is the first time we were told that it was scoliosis

No brace suggested

There is a dicrepancy of .43 inches(I think)
 
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OK WBK, at 15 degrees of curvature your scoliosis can be considered minimal. I imagine treatment will be observation; in 6 months? More aggressive treatment is not normally considered until 20 to 30 degrees of curvature. In the meantime, electrical stimulation, manipulation and/or physical therapy may be offered to ease the pain. I hope the immediate treatment you were given worked, if not, do ask for another form of treatment.

It is very important that you exercise regularly; exercise/sport will not worsen the curve of the spine and if it provides good back muscle strength, fantastic, it is an important component of effective scoliosis treatment.

However, if the scoliosis is associated with back pain [and I think your's is] then exercise should be minimised.

As you are/were a pace bowler, I think you should forget it for a while, at least until skeletal maturity is reached :( but I see no reason why you should not continue to keep.

Having said this, you must follow the advice of your chiropractor. He has had the privilege of seeing you and is on top of your case. If you are unhappy with his answers then consult another chiropractor; though they may probably give you the same advice.
 
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wannabekeeper said:
Hi guys, how is it going?

This is a question for Liz, I went to a chiropractor on Saturday for my back problems and he told me that I have scoliosis and in my case, my spine is bent to the left at an angle of 15 degrees.....so he performed electronic acupuncture to relieve the pain among other things and gave me some stretches and exercises to do.

So my question to you is, since it is now known that I have scoliosis, would bowling or wicketkeeping affect it? if so, explain. I already asked him if bowling or wicketkeeping would affect it. so I am asking you the same question to compare the answers. By affect I mean make it worse.

Sorry to hear that, I hope it sorts itself out without too much pain.
 
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Thanks Stan.

Liz, that is basically the answer he gave me.

But I would like to understand WHY I shouldnt continue bowling
How will it affect my back? will it make it worse? please explain.
 
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hey liz jus a question would core training help wannabekeeper out? it helps me wit my bak pain
 
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From a layman's point of view and the little I know about the topic, I would hazard a guess that due to the 'unnatural' curve of the spine, activities like bowling would put an even great stress on the back than normal, and in different places than would generally be expected.
 
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wannabekeeper said:
But I would like to understand WHY I shouldnt continue bowling
How will it affect my back? will it make it worse? please explain.

Pace bowling is quite 'violent' to the skeletal structure and with a normal curvature, this can only be 'minimised' with a good core and strong muscles. The violence is still there.

The back acts as a whip for the arm; visualise cracking a whip. This, in itself is extremely violent; as the movement vibrates through to the distal end of the whip [at several thousand km/s], it sends 'waves' right the way back to the handle. In your body, this is the spine; the stresses are incredible.

Now, at the same time this is happening, the lumbar spine is hyperextended and rotated at the same time as lateral flexion.

The shape of the normal spine ie, cervical/lumbar concave, thoracic/sacral convex, dramatically increases its capacity to absorb impact without damage. Unfortunately, your spine is twisted laterally. This modified structure is just not as capable.

A_A is right, bowling will not make the scoliosis worse but could fracture the spine under stress, especially whilst it is still growing. Now, you probably don't think you could grow any more but in males, ossification [bone formation] continues until around 21, even then, although growth in length is not possible, growth in width and density is.

I am not saying you will never go back to bowling, you just need to see how the scoliosis develops.

I hope this helps but please ask more questions if you need to. I wish you all the best with this but please do not be too disappointed; your keeping technique looks really good, enjoy it.

Kizza is correct, core strength will become your friend but I guess these are the exercises you were given.

One question: did your chiropractor carefully measure the length of your legs?
 
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yeh i new that would help
my back pain has minimised alot since i did a bit of core training
 
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wannabekeeper said:
Yes Liz he definitely measured carefully.

Good news; I was sure he had, it tells me a lot.

Keep getting it checked and please do not skimp on the back strengthening exercises as well as core strengthening.

Your hamstrings look good but stretch them well every day to take some pressure off the spine.
 
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I am supposed to ahve another appointment on saturday for him to perform electronic acupuncture again so I will let you know how it goes.

On a technical note related to keeping, can anyone give me tips for taking the ball down leg when the batsman blocks my line of vision I find it really difficult
 
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Acupuncture is very good, my dad is one and apperently very good at it, he worked on teh english cricket team 20 odd years ago :p

Not sure about electronic though :eek:hmy:
 
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