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I'm accusing one individual, not attacking your club, BW. I'm certainly not going to paint your club with the same brush as one indiviudal unless it was consistently happening - and to be fair on the bloke in question it may have been a one off that hopefully he learns from. Furthermore, I don't have a bad word to say about your club and have nothing but praise for a club that is led by an individual who quickly put his hand up to be part of the fundraiser as Marshall did. Not to mention there has been little or no bad press on the Beach Boys via the forum or from my network, hence this is nothing more than a dig at your E Grade skipper for the incident in question. As captain of our club I berated of one of our players last week who gave a not out LBW decision and proceeded to tell everyone afterwards that it was plumb. It's selfish and takes away from the spirit of the game of park cricket. Anyway, I said my piece and I will leave it there.
Appreciate the kind words about the club too. We've certainly tried to make it a hospitable environment and hope that it is reflected in the finals allocations after this weekend. Particularly given the state of the ground.
 
No probs Mick -- appreciate the discussion. Kudos for addressing your player regarding dodgy LBW decisions and, as I said, I will talk to our boys.

Note to CMCA: play finals at Peterson Oval. It's in incredible nick and a lovely place to play cricket.

Anyway, back to the cricket... :)
 
Mjbunty said:
My understanding is that the results stand as Mick said that its only for rounds not per each week, and I spoke to one of the guys off the CMCA committee out our game on Sat and he confirmed that
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It might have changed again but I was under the impression that if less than 50% of the games were washed out on Day 1, then all the round reverts to a one dayer. From memory this was brought in a few years ago to stop teams playing in poor conditions whilst others were abandoned and to stop a team having a perceived advantage over other clubs; especially teams trying to make the finals.
 
Makes sense, however by the same token a side that has gained an advantage over weekend could also be compromised by the shortened version if it were to revert to a one day game.
 
I said a while back that the CMCA should be looking at Peterson Oval for finals.... great ground! Sure beats the 'pond' we were to play on, on Saturday. The two games either side at Caulfield Park were bone dry! CMCA will hopefully look at an alternative venue/backup plan for next week as you can't have the top of the table clash washed out and the finals decided on this!
Fingers crossed we can get on this weekend
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Are there alternatives though, SB? It was hard enough finding grounds at the beginning of the season.
As I said last week, it looks like our game is likely to be moved from Memorial Oval to our ground on a Sunday due to the impact the wetlands are having on the surface at Memorial. I'm told the last 3 rounds haven't been able to get on there.
 
Not so much given the cirumstances, Clock. From what I'm told Melbourne Water have closed down a substation for some reason that pertains to Mordialloc creek - or something to that effect. This has subsequently caused flooding in the wetlands region due to the recent heavy rains having nowhere to go and as a consequence the ground has now been under water for weeks. I believe Edithvale Rd was even closed for a couple of the weeks and the local Primary School needed an extra week before allowing their students back for the new year. This is all hearsay though. I haven't ventured down that way and am only going on secondhand information. I'm sure if someone in there area reads this thread they would be able to shed more light on the situation.
 
CLOCKER said:
It might have changed again but I was under the impression that if less than 50% of the games were washed out on Day 1, then all the round reverts to a one dayer. From memory this was brought in a few years ago to stop teams playing in poor conditions whilst others were abandoned and to stop a team having a perceived advantage over other clubs; especially teams trying to make the finals.
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After failing to read the by laws in respect to player qualifications last year, i have taken it upon myself to be well versed in them now and as a result i can confirm that the 50% rule is only on Day 2 of matches. Here is the law as it appears in the CMCA handbook.





9.1.5 Cancellation of a Round’s Results
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Where more than 50% of matches in an individual grade are
abandoned on Day 2, all matches will be deemed to be null and

void regardless of whether some matches were completed and
three points will be awarded to teams in that grade. However if
a first innings result was achieved on the first day of the game
then six points will be allocated to the winning team and zero


points to the losing team of that game.

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Uncle Mick said:
Not so much given the cirumstances, Clock. From what I'm told Melbourne Water have closed down a substation for some reason that pertains to Mordialloc creek - or something to that effect. This has subsequently caused flooding in the wetlands region due to the recent heavy rains having nowhere to go and as a consequence the ground has now been under water for weeks. I believe Edithvale Rd was even closed for a couple of the weeks and the local Primary School needed an extra week before allowing their students back for the new year. This is all hearsay though. I haven't ventured down that way and am only going on secondhand information. I'm sure if someone in there area reads this thread they would be able to shed more light on the situation.
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Edithvale rd was closed for about a week (knee high in the middle of the road for over 7 days) after the big wet a few weeks back, but i have also read something about M/ Water have closed of part of the creek flow/ or overflow due to sewrige (how the hell do you spell that word??) leak or similar..

& no Edi PS start was not delayed (maybe Aspebdale?), as the lil fella started on time..

But yes the whole area now struggles after a moderate soaking due to the heavy rain a few fridays back..

god knows what would of happened had the rain come every 2nd week, instead of week 1... the old rule books would of got a workout!!!
 
Evening All,

The old Burgermeister back as a regular contributor again back from sooky la la land.

Merl and the time piece agreeing on something in that positive Merl just cannot believe that turf cricket played a majority of games while the CMCA with new oasis everywhere could only get the game up at Lake Hurly ( no not Liz ) with a bit of common sense and roping off areas.

While I was out of radio range on a sunday drive in the beemer my good source the lady on the tram advised me that Jimmy put Trigger on the spot regarding BBQ's picking and choosing where and who they will officiate for???????

Well said Uncle and Brian cricket is better for the BCF where the world's problems can be solved and if not for Barrack we would also solve the CMCA's as well but he knows everthing and doesn't want to listen.( oops there i go again )

Merl over and out
 
Interesting topic gentlemen regarding ground allocation come finals.

What grounds should be rated to host this years ground finals in order through the grades and what are the factors that should determine the allocation. Yes there are alot of good candidates out there who could and would be a fantastic venue.

Here is a list of grounds who in my opinion would be up there, if i have missed any i do apologies please add your nominated ground (in no particular order)

Centenary Park (Brady Rd East Bentleigh)
Chilsom Reserve (Duncan Street East Sandringham)
Hurlingham Park (East Brighton)
Mackie Rd Reserve (Mackie Rd, East Bentleigh)
Peterson Street (Highett)

Key indicators

-Ground needs fencing (includes wire to ground)
-Quality of playing surface
-Size of ground
-Ambiance and spectator quality
-Hosting ability
-Synthetic surface
-Teams and were they finish (ie is a home final exceptable)
-Grounds ability to manage heavy water load's (especially this season more then any other)
'is there any other indicators to add to the list'

Interested in everyone's view which grounds should be allocated for which grade for there respective Grand Final.

Regards Mr Cox
 
Thanks for clarifying Army. Interesting that Le Page was excluded from the list even though it is one of the better grounds to play and watch cricket. It also has the advantage of two grounds so it could accomodate a club with two teams in the finals. Again the old chest nut as to whether teams that finish on top should have the right to host games including the Grand Final, assuming their ground is upto it. My view is that they deserve the right to host a Grand Final since they have reached the grand final. Moorabbin West have been in 3 Grand finals and hosted none of them which was a travesty. Hoops oval is just not a good ground to watch cricket. It lacks atmosphere, but the CMCA love it and will probably end up playing a final there. If the final is to be played at a neutral venue then it will be played at Mackie or Highett West, although the latter could be a problem since none of the Longmuir matches have been played at the ground during the season. Centenary Park is also up there but with Uniting competing in so many finals it could cause problems.
Mackie: Longmuir Grand Final
Highett West: Woolnough Grand final
Centenary Park: Quiney Grand Final
Le Page 1 : D Grade
 
coxy said:
Key indicators

-Ground needs fencing (includes wire to ground)
-Quality of playing surface
-Size of ground
-Ambiance and spectator quality
-Hosting ability
-Synthetic surface
-Teams and were they finish (ie is a home final exceptable)
-Grounds ability to manage heavy water load's (especially this season more then any other)
'is there any other indicators to add to the list'
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Except for fencing -- and I may be bias -- but Wattie Watson has all the other key indicators easily covered. Elwood is in beautiful condition and handles water better than most. Plus our club rooms are kick ass and the ambiance is exceptional.

Is it because we are out of CMCA heartland that we are often overlooked in these discussions?
 
Brian Wilson said:
Except for fencing -- and I may be bias -- but Wattie Watson has all the other key indicators easily covered. Elwood is in beautiful condition and handles water better than most. Plus our club rooms are kick ass and the ambiance is exceptional.

Is it because we are out of CMCA heartland that we are often overlooked in these discussions?
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Yes Brian, experienced the good vibrations of Wattie on Sunday and it looks sensational. The heartland factor is indeed a factor (thats why Jimmy only goes down there once or twice a season). Hopefully it has become more atmospheric with the new shed because it used to be like Hurly, you could hear nothing from the boundary and it totally lacked atmosphere, especially when the wind got up (added to which you also had to face Humphrey Hughes and Hitchy for 30 overs each).
As for other grounds (just my opinion):-
Mackie - Longy
Highett West - Wooly
Centenary - Quiney
D - Wattie
E - Chisholm
F - LPP
G - Hurly
H - The Brick ALSO IN GOOD NICK
I - Cluden

Disappointed you missed Sunday show Merl, had lengthy discussion on the disparity of club strengths in junior section as highlighted by Clocker on BCF last week.
 
Jimmy Olson said:
Yes Brian, experienced the good vibrations of Wattie on Sunday and it looks sensational. The heartland factor is indeed a factor (thats why Jimmy only goes down there once or twice a season). Hopefully it has become more atmospheric with the new shed because it used to be like Hurly, you could hear nothing from the boundary and it totally lacked atmosphere, especially when the wind got up (added to which you also had to face Humphrey Hughes and Hitchy for 30 overs each).
As for other grounds (just my opinion):-
Mackie - Longy
Highett West - Wooly
Centenary - Quiney
D - Wattie
E - Chisholm
F - LPP
G - Hurly
H - The Brick ALSO IN GOOD NICK
I - Cluden

Disappointed you missed Sunday show Merl, had lengthy discussion on the disparity of club strengths in junior section as highlighted by Clocker on BCF last week.
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Is there any chance that the cricket show can be put onto the CMCA website so those of us who cannot access it can have an opportunity to catch up on the program? If Sugar and the Judge can whip out their fortnightly youtube,surely it should not be too difficult? It would cetainly benefit everyone.
 
CLOCKER said:
Is there any chance that the cricket show can be put onto the CMCA website so those of us who cannot access it can have an opportunity to catch up on the program? If Sugar and the Judge can whip out their fortnightly youtube,surely it should not be too difficult? It would cetainly benefit everyone.
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I’m with you 100% Clocker, for me personally it’s on at a bad time (taking my young bloke to swimming lessons). Love the show but can seldom tune in. I asked Jimmy a while back about getting a podcast happening and he said he was working on it? Any updates Jimmy?
 
coxy said:
Interesting topic gentlemen regarding ground allocation come finals.

What grounds should be rated to host this years ground finals in order through the grades and what are the factors that should determine the allocation. Yes there are alot of good candidates out there who could and would be a fantastic venue.

Here is a list of grounds who in my opinion would be up there, if i have missed any i do apologies please add your nominated ground (in no particular order)

Centenary Park (Brady Rd East Bentleigh)
Chilsom Reserve (Duncan Street East Sandringham)
Hurlingham Park (East Brighton)
Mackie Rd Reserve (Mackie Rd, East Bentleigh)
Peterson Street (Highett)

Key indicators

-Ground needs fencing (includes wire to ground)
-Quality of playing surface
-Size of ground
-Ambiance and spectator quality
-Hosting ability
-Synthetic surface
-Teams and were they finish (ie is a home final exceptable)
-Grounds ability to manage heavy water load's (especially this season more then any other)
'is there any other indicators to add to the list'

Interested in everyone's view which grounds should be allocated for which grade for there respective Grand Final.

Regards Mr Cox
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G'day Coxy, (if its the real deal & not our friend Mr M as one of his 15 alliaces???)

My only view on the matter is teams competing in grand finals should not be played at their home ground, regardless of where they finish...

there are enough grounds in good nic for all GF's to be played on neutral grounds.. takes out any debate after the fact, we should/ shouldn't be playing on their home ground.. Blah Blah Blah

Also agree Hurly is NO good to watch cricket, thats why it never seems to draw a big crowd... Nice to play on (except the running factor..haha!) Hard to watch cricket there tho !!
have played in 2 GFs there & it just doesnt have the GF kinda feel about it when your playing...

be good to have top 2 grade GFs at ESandy (assuming they dont make it, see above) & H/West, great grounds to watch cricket on & they are close together.. Both great ground to watch cricket on as a spectator, in good nic, easy to park etc etc.. Then we can all commute easily between the 2 top tier finals
 
Jimmy - what were you doing at Wattie on Sunday given it was hosting the BRW corporate triathlon? I strolled over to have a look at the new rooms after I was done. I must say they are mighty impressive. I can only assume factors working against the ground hosting a major final are the windy conditions they are susceptible to and the fact they're a little out of the "CMCA heartland".
Of course a little bias, but I think Burger has come up with a great suggestion. The grounds are walking distance from each other and provide a great atmoshpere for watching cricket - however a slight concern over Chisholm being able to hold up if we get more rain after the match was abandoned on the weekend. I also think Le Page has to be considered where a club has 2 sides playing. It's the only venue with 2 grounds that have fenced off boundaries and I'm all for the idea of any club that has 2 sides playing a Grand Final being able to play side by side - particularly with Uniting being a good chance of having multiple sides in the GF.
 
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