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Ok next best thing! Get out there in the dusk, it'll help probably as you're not in the best light.

If you can see the target then thats good enough. Other things you can do and has been said, is get a personal trainer or specified cricket trainer.

Being personal here, do you have children? I dont know your age but i get the feeling your a little older than a lot of this board (Put together? :p Sorry)
 
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It's obvious that I've still lots to learn, what you've said there is very interesting - I like the idea of observing whether the batsman is playing confidently - but possibly leaving himself exposed. I'd never have considered looking at the gaps he was leaving between pad and bat, so that's good. I also like the approach of being prepared to be hit for 6 x 6's and then developing a strategic plan and again that implies you've got real confidence in your abilities and needless to say that comes with experience?
 
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Yeah I got that impression - even you blokes that run this forum sound really young not that it matters (Some said they'd reply from Uni). Yeah I'm ancient - 47 and yeah I've got kids but if you're going to suggest they get involved - it's not going to happen as they're only 6 and 9 and I've got to be cautious as I really want them to play cricket and I am running the risk of over doing it with getting them involved (There's a thread elsewhere where I asked about encouraging kids to be involved).
 
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I've only been playing from the age of 10, so seven years, this will be my 8th season coming up.

I feel i've gained a lot of experience and thats because i'm willing to go against my coach, if he says do it one way, i'll give it a go, if i feel i'll benifit another way i'll kindly reject the idea.

The thing is to improve you need a coach that you can bounce off. For many people, going to the pub with your coach isn't your idea of a Friday night, but for me, its perfect. What can be better than over a few beers in your local pub and discussing cricket? The only thing better is....Its a family board so i wont go any further.

The looking for gaps method is something you need to implement into you game. If a batsmens "wristy," he's likely to like playing away from his body, so spinning the ball away might go against you at first, but thats building up his confidence, which isn't a problem. Once he's ready to play you'll notice him getting forward, leaving those gaps between his legs, and either side of his arm, if its spinning, you'll find success by using this method.

Going back to the age thing? if you dont wanna answer it thats fine with me!
 
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With regards the personal trainer idea - that is something I've got to check out and Liz Wards given me some contact details to follow up which I will do after Christmas.
 
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Ok, talking about your kids. Can you get access to those indoor nets you were talking about because that'd be a great kid/father thing to do, and it'd give you a chance to get them involved, stick a helmet on one of em, pair of football gloves (or wicketkeeper gloves if you have them) and just bowl them slower to get them confident, it could bring there game on aswell.
 
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"Over-doing," you kids is a big problem but if you get them down there once a week, or two weeks i'm sure the enjoyment would remain high.
 
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Yeah that works in the summer and we have some really good days with friends where we mix up playing cricket and football and do it in short bursts and the kids love it and as you say if you make it so that they do well their confidence grows.

The nets thing is impractical as it costs £70 an hour unfortunately.

I just have to be careful as I get obsessive about things when I want to do them well and cricket is in that zone. I feel like being 47 and new to the game I can't hang around and if I want to be affective I have got to practice and at some point I'll hit some kind of physical problem that might stop me from playing so all the time I'm fit I'm going to practice at every opportunity I get. That mean that every week last summer I must have practiced bowling on average 5 times a week spending on average and hour and half each session. So I'm like -
"Kids - shall we go for a bike ride"?
"No Dad cos we know we're going to end up at the cricket pitch and you're just going to be bowling for an hour and half".
 
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Haha, I tell you, i admire your mental side with your kids, makes me excited about the prospect of kids, in 30 years ;)

Ok, well carry on what you're doing, and as you've said, follow Liz's advice, i cant really say more than that without knowing your local area well. Which will be unlikely as i dont know my town that well ;)

If you've any more questions on leg spin in available for another 30 minutes, otherwise it'll be pretty much 24 hours until i pick them up.
 
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someblokecalleddave said:
The nets thing is impractical as it costs £70 an hour unfortunately.
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is there not a uni in your area ? i used to go to a place called cricket first choice in redbourne, but then i found out that i could go to a uni about 15mins away by car and £15 for 1hr of netting, but get away with the extra 15 or 30mins usually lol.

saw a post asking how i bowl 10 overs for 23 runs with leg spin - its more of pitch it on middle and leg stump then with the spin its gonna either take his edge or he has to defend it, just constantly hit the same area and u ll be fine :) well obviously lol.

i got a bright orange plastic bag and placed it in the nets or down the park with a friend then bowled to try and hit that area over and over again, brighter colour always works more then a dark colour ;)
 
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Simbazz said:
I've only been playing from the age of 10, so seven years, this will be my 8th season coming up.
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Wow, I'm 14 and this is my 6th season. Started when I was 9.
 
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Dave,

Right at the bottom of this page is a link to Calypso Cricket. Give it a click and have a look, Mark Costin may be able to offer you something suitable in the New Year.
 
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Loads of responses here - I need a list!

1. Liz
2. Plastic Bags
3. Uni and nets
4. Being an older Dad
5. Starting Cricket at 9

1. Liz - unless I'm doing something wrong I can't see the link for calypso cricket?

2. Yeah I do the plastic bag thing and loads of similar things, currently I use a piece of board that's 10" x 30" that I lay long ways aimed at the stumps 5 yards out. So it's narrowish but long and I aim to get it on the board. The only thing with this and I've been thinking about this in relation to a post yesterday - it's fine in practice and it works really well and I agree if it was a nice bright colour it would be better (For some reason)? But.... when it's not there in a match situation that's when the insecurities seem to settle in - without such an obvious target my focus is distracted by the batsman and I get engrossed in what he's doing and where he's looking and how confident he looks and just the fact that he's there with a bat waiting to put the ball over the boundary. Then the red mist comes down over me and I find myself trying to bowl much faster and at the stumps and as a consequence much longer. It's definitely an area I need to work on or at least be aware of as a really negative aspect of my bowling. What I need to do is be in control as Simbazz said - bowl the first over on the spot trying to suss out the batsman and be prepared to be hit all over the place and then respond once you've got a sense of how good or confident he is. But going back to the point about where to pitch the ball it sounds as though I need to look for something to aim at? It'd be good if I could pick up a daisy or something and discreetly put it on the runway!!!! Peanuts maybe! What do other people do I wonder?

3. There are nets about 15 miles away from where I live which are also near where I work, but they belong to a cricket club and you're supposed to use them only if you're invited to do so by one of the club members - you can get in there easily, but it's getting the other blokes to go down there - they seem a bit cagey about getting rumbled! They're outside as well so this time of year they matting would be soaked and under pile of leaves. I've put a request on our clubs ECB play cricket forum for people to get together at a supposedly free indoor venue but no-ones replied or looked at the forum since.

4. Simbazz - I reckon it's the way to go! Having kids when you are a kid yourself it doesn't make sense to me at all. Live your life to the full when you're younger and do the famly thing when you're ready.

5. Sean - I've been amazed at the kids I've played against that are really young. I'm in a Sunday 2nd XI team so it's made up of old duffers like me and the colts that are coming up through the ranks prior to joining the 2nd Saturday XI's. I've played against really young kids that can bowl amazingly well over 22 yards and stand there ground at the wicket with adults bowling at them. How they get that good so young is beyond me and what their Dads did to get them there is inconceivable! In fact our 2nd best Leg Spin bowler is a little lad that's 14 and he bats really well and bowls a lot better than me. But his family lives and breathes cricket there's 3 generations of them in our team so that's to be expected.

I've just got to keep my fingers crossed that my boys this summer will feel more inclined to play and be more physically sure of themselves!
 
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It wouldn't be a night at sC without our resident leg spin fanatic posting.

I see no other way for you but to keep on practising the way you are through winter.
 
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Charlies another advocate of pitching it into the same area time and time again and let the spin force the errors. Charlie you say it's obvious but to anyone that's new to this - these are the things people need to hear. And again I have to ask how much time do you put in trying to perfect the line and length - did it come easy or is this something you have to keep plugging away at? It sounds as though your practice sessions with the orange bag means you do put a fair bit of time into it?
 
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someblokecalleddave said:
And again I have to ask how much time do you put in trying to perfect the line and length - did it come easy or is this something you have to keep plugging away at?
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This isn't aimed at me i know, but i'll be honest with you, i can turn up to training and matches not knowing for the first few balls where the ruddy hell the balls going.

The more practise you put into it, the more you can be assured in your skills. When i go out there i can back myself more because i practise more. When you have "prefected," your skills, and i say prefected loosely, but when i say this i mean that you have practised it so much that you're unlikely going to improve unless you change something drastically.

Going back to the more you practise thing, it just gives you the confidence to go out there. Thats all that i get now during the summer, because i spin that much day in day out i get bored of trying to spin it, so the challange of hitting a two pence piece is inviting.
 
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