MMVCA General Cricket Chat

[putabellintheball]

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Deano, i don't know who you are or who you having been speaking with, but i have never read anything further from the truth, 'We were desperate not to Play'. How in the hell do you come to this conclusion? The umpires called the game off, not the captains, and defintely not Glenroy CC. Are you aware of this? Dave Jolley requested we remain at the ground for as long as possible, which we did. Glenroy CC did not make any comment as to whether the days play should be abandoned, this decision was down to both umpires, Pat Campbell & Al Taylor.

Our team was just as keen to get on the field as were St Andrews, but being the biggest game of the season, do you want it to be decided by the toss of a coin? Now let's get on thing straight. Were you there? Did you see the wicket first hand? or are you getting second hand information? The wicket was not consistent, and could be construde as being dangerous for some of the bowlers, in particular Wardy, Sean Pipe and Paul Newton, as they all hit the crease as hard as anyone in our comp.

Sunday was one of, if not, the most frustrating days of cricket (or not cricket) that i have been involved with, and that goes for the rest of our team as well. I am sure that the St Andrews players felt the same.

Yes you are correct in saying that a premiership would not be the same if won by way of higher ladder position. Let's just hope the weather holds off this weekend and the game finally gets underway.

Some people on this forum make ridiculous comments, Deano, yours in just one example of that.

Can I ask a couple of questions here:

Was the pitch wet just short of a length and;

was it due to the rain getting in under the covers or because there was holes in the covers?

I would like to know and I will then give you the reason for the question

 

[FRONTFOOTNOBALL]

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I wonder if the pitch will be dug up tomorrow night like the Western Suburbs Church League. Now that will be funny...
Let me see what do i have on tomorrow night!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mmvca didnt you talk about doing this not long ago??????

 

[Sainters_3_Peat]

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Deano, i don't know who you are or who you having been speaking with, but i have never read anything further from the truth, 'We were desperate not to Play'. How in the hell do you come to this conclusion? The umpires called the game off, not the captains, and defintely not Glenroy CC. Are you aware of this? Dave Jolley requested we remain at the ground for as long as possible, which we did. Glenroy CC did not make any comment as to whether the days play should be abandoned, this decision was down to both umpires, Pat Campbell & Al Taylor.

Our team was just as keen to get on the field as were St Andrews, but being the biggest game of the season, do you want it to be decided by the toss of a coin? Now let's get on thing straight. Were you there? Did you see the wicket first hand? or are you getting second hand information? The wicket was not consistent, and could be construde as being dangerous for some of the bowlers, in particular Wardy, Sean Pipe and Paul Newton, as they all hit the crease as hard as anyone in our comp.

Sunday was one of, if not, the most frustrating days of cricket (or not cricket) that i have been involved with, and that goes for the rest of our team as well. I am sure that the St Andrews players felt the same.

Yes you are correct in saying that a premiership would not be the same if won by way of higher ladder position. Let's just hope the weather holds off this weekend and the game finally gets underway.

Some people on this forum make ridiculous comments, Deano, yours in just one example of that.

Lets just say that deano was there on the weekend and the pitch was more than playable. Yes the umpires do make the final decision on the state of play, but i am certain geeceecee or should i say warren parker. if you had agreed that the pitch was playable and i reinforce that it was, the umpires would not of come into it so your comments of we wanted to play is out and out rubbish. If we get 2 days play this week we will show you all why we are the best in the buisness at this part of the season!!!!

 

[Guru14]

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Lets just say that deano was there on the weekend and the pitch was more than playable. Yes the umpires do make the final decision on the state of play but i am certain geeceecee or should i say warren parker that if you had agreed that the pitch was playable and i reinforce that is was the umpires would not of come into it so your comments of we wanteed to play is out and out rubbish anyway at least we will get 2 days play this week to show you all why we are the best in the buisness at this part of the season!!!!

Always plenty of finger pointing when it comes to St Andrews yet the mood changes when the finger is pointed at them! Why would you take the chance given the conditions last weekend

 

[GeeCeeCee]

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Can I ask a couple of questions here:

Was the pitch wet just short of a length and;

was it due to the rain getting in under the covers or because there was holes in the covers?

I would like to know and I will then give you the reason for the question

FYI, The pitch was soft on one side of the wicket for about one third the length of the pitch. (ie. if a left handed bat was facing they would be batting in the soft area, where as a right hander would be playing balls from a much harder surface, also a right arm bowler from that end would have been bowling through the soft area).

In relation to the water getting on the wicket, it would have been my guess that because there was so much rain on saturday, water was sitting on the covers and therefore found it's way through the covers. I would have thought there may have been some small holes in that area as there was some duck tape on the covers.

 

[GeeCeeCee]

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Lets just say that deano was there on the weekend and the pitch was more than playable. Yes the umpires do make the final decision on the state of play but i am certain geeceecee or should i say warren parker that if you had agreed that the pitch was playable and i reinforce that is was the umpires would not of come into it so your comments of we wanteed to play is out and out rubbish anyway at least we will get 2 days play this week to show you all why we are the best in the buisness at this part of the season!!!!

I hope we do get 2 good full days of cricket this week Paul (and yes i know Deano was there, or is it Jimmy Marinos), i wish we could have got 4 good days of cricket. The wicket was more than playable, yes, but why would you disadvantage one team so greatly by playing on a wicket that was inconsistent (soft on one side, hard on the other)?, and why would you want the Grand Final to potentially be decided by the toss of a coin? . If we were playing a one dayer, then lets play, but i don't believe that wicket was fit to play the Grand Final on.

In relation to me agreeing to play or not, i was never given the option or even asked the question. The umpires made there decision between themselves and then just advised us of that decision.

Anyway, enough of that, let's just hope that the sun shines this weekend and some good cricket is played, as there were too many people frustrated from last weekends results, or non results.

 

[putabellintheball]

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FYI, The pitch was soft on one side of the wicket for about one third the length of the pitch. (ie. if a left handed bat was facing they would be batting in the soft area, where as a right hander would be playing balls from a much harder surface, also a right arm bowler from that end would have been bowling through the soft area).

In relation to the water getting on the wicket, it would have been my guess that because there was so much rain on saturday, water was sitting on the covers and therefore found it's way through the covers. I would have thought there may have been some small holes in that area as there was some duck tape on the covers.

Well if they had duct tape on it looks like they have tried to fix the covers. The reason for the question was becuase when we played Pacco the same thing happened where the pitch was wet only in sections (the wrong areas) and as such we had to come back the next week for a one dayer.

If it is the same troublesome covers though and the patch job was not good enough - then Pacco need to get those covers fixed.

The pitch when we played them looked awesome and even the week after played well (we still got rained on that week too).

 

[putabellintheball]

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In relation to me agreeing to play or not, i was never given the option or even asked the question. The umpires made there decision between themselves and then just advised us of that decision.

You would have to say the right call was made wouldn't you? I went to watch the VTCA GF and got soaked. They got a start but again a very interupted day of cricket.

I hope this weekend is rain free and both teams get to show why they are there.

Good luck Dave and Warren.

 

[GeeCeeCee]

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Well if they had duct tape on it looks like they have tried to fix the covers. The reason for the question was becuase when we played Pacco the same thing happened where the pitch was wet only in sections (the wrong areas) and as such we had to come back the next week for a one dayer.

If it is the same troublesome covers though and the patch job was not good enough - then Pacco need to get those covers fixed.

The pitch when we played them looked awesome and even the week after played well (we still got rained on that week too).

We are actually playing at Hosken Reserve, Haig's ground, not Pacco's. But sounds like a similar problem, i know our ground has had similar problems as well in the past, old covers!

 

[putabellintheball]

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We are actually playing at Hosken Reserve, Haig's ground, not Pacco's. But sounds like a similar problem, i know our ground has had similar problems as well in the past, old covers!

My mistake - our B Grade is playing at Raeburn.

They had similar issues so it would be interesting to find out if the covers were fixed. Will update you later.

On this issue - should their be penalties in place for faulty covers etc?

I mean the main purpose is to get out there playing cricket on a Saturday and if the home team - us included - are the reason why a game does not start - should there be penalties?

I mean can get fined for wearing the wrong colour socks but there is no issue if the pitch can not be used becuase of holes in the covers....

 

[Blow In]

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Any truth to the rumour floating around that the covers did not get put back on Sunday morning after the council rolled the pitch and it directly copped the rain that fell?

Who had responsibility for covers on Sunday morning? Wasn't there meant to be someone monitoring the ground?

 

[Guru14]

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We are actually playing at Hosken Reserve, Haig's ground, not Pacco's. But sounds like a similar problem, i know our ground has had similar problems as well in the past, old covers!

Why would we not look at purchasing new covers as a competition and be helped by the exec. Our covers we already have would or could be used to cover the rest of the square given that this year with the lack of grass it's not usually the wicket being used but the surrounds

 

[Guru14]

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We are actually playing at Hosken Reserve, Haig's ground, not Pacco's. But sounds like a similar problem, i know our ground has had similar problems as well in the past, old covers!

What's on for training tonight mate, easy night with some fielding drills and off nice and early. Meal at the club with a couple of quiet ones, or a heavy session tonight mate. It would be hard with a weekend lost for boys not to think too much about this weekend. Good luck mate, i think GCC is a good thing this weekend over 2 days

 

[jontyfromsa]

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Does this weekends game become ordinary conditions now that 2 days play is lost??
If so beating Glenroy becomes virtually impossible unless they play really badly.
What a result that would be. Looking unlikely to be in the finals at xmas and premiers in march
Good luck to both sides...shattered im not there playing in the game myself....geting sick of saying next year, next year.

Also, what a disentegration on this site by St Marys players. If you remember back to very early in the season I said I couldnt believe how much they were sniping with each other when we were 6 for nothing against them. And now it looks like Harry is off..... to St Andrews im tipping. Wonder how many others will leave.
Wests have had more dissapointments than any club, yet, we respect our opposition and more importantly ourselves!!
When we do eventually have the ultimate success it will be very sweet knowing how close we all are and what we've been through to get it

 

[Hit 4 6]

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I as a proud St Mary's Player can say that we at St Mary's are a tight unit and we all did agree on mad monday to get on this site and bag each other as we have done and you shouldn't always believe what you read...

Harry (Shane Harris) always says he is/going to retire but he has made more comeback's than John Farnham has made comeback tours....

I can say 90% of our senior side will play on next year with 1 or 2 good inclusions and i can say that we will be as hungry as ever for that flag that we have missed out on the last 2 seasons so a warning to all sides as the Carlton membership drive says you know were coming..

Little side note Kingy will make 400+ runs next season if not he owes me a slab of Jim beam cans if he does i owe him slab of Ouzo.

 

[jontyfromsa]

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I as a proud St Mary's Player can say that we at St Mary's are a tight unit and we all did agree on mad monday to get on this site and bag each other as we have done and you shouldn't always believe what you read...

Harry (Shane Harris) always says he is/going to retire but he has made more comeback's than John Farnham has made comeback tours....

I can say 90% of our senior side will play on next year with 1 or 2 good inclusions and i can say that we will be as hungry as ever for that flag that we have missed out on the last 2 seasons so a warning to all sides as the Carlton membership drive says you know were coming..

Little side note Kingy will make 400+ runs next season if not he owes me a slab of Jim beam cans if he does i owe him slab of Ouzo.

Fair enough bite me, the boys have kept to their word then
and youll enjoy ur jim beam next year haha

 

[Deano]

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I hope we do get 2 good full days of cricket this week Paul (and yes i know Deano was there, or is it Jimmy Marinos), i wish we could have got 4 good days of cricket. The wicket was more than playable, yes, but why would you disadvantage one team so greatly by playing on a wicket that was inconsistent (soft on one side, hard on the other)?, and why would you want the Grand Final to potentially be decided by the toss of a coin? . If we were playing a one dayer, then lets play, but i don't believe that wicket was fit to play the Grand Final on.

In relation to me agreeing to play or not, i was never given the option or even asked the question. The umpires made there decision between themselves and then just advised us of that decision.

Anyway, enough of that, let's just hope that the sun shines this weekend and some good cricket is played, as there were too many people frustrated from last weekends results, or non results.

Correct on both counts mate. We would have batted and bowled on that no question. Played on heaps worse. I am sure St Marys could have done the same last weekend but we are here to play cricket, or in my case try to play and often fail.

Maybe "desperate" was not the right phrasing, but i stand by the comment overall.

I never intimated that someone specifically said they did not want to play. Hey, it was just the feeling i got, maybe i was wrong. Just another personal opinion which every has a go at.

My opinion is that i would rather play a gf and lose then win by weather. As in, if we where top of the ladder and somehow given the option for a definate premiership by walkover or to take the gamble to playgf, i would say play everytime.

Most would disagree but we play cricket to play under all sorts of conditions and usually the best team will prevail.

Anyway, its a mute point anyway, with 150 overs this week the game will get a result but glenroy would have to be red hot favorites.

ps. far be it for me to defend st marys, as i am not there most favoured competitior, but surely we realise that they where taking the piss out of each other as a gag like the majority of posts on this site. (mine included)

 

[10notout]

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Fair enough bite me, the boys have kept to their word then
and youll enjoy ur jim beam next year haha

So you don't think i'll get 400 hay, , I no for a fact you have not seen me bat. Actually no one saw me bat this year.
I may have been a run machine in a previous life or FFNB may be on the mark, I may be just a fat old no good park cricketer.

And as far as the bet goes for slab, I think your on stop credit as I believe I have one every bet we have had this year and the boys in black suits may be coming for ya!!!!!

Kingy

 

[Hit 4 6]

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Correct on both counts mate. We would have batted and bowled on that no question. Played on heaps worse. I am sure St Marys could have done the same last weekend but we are here to play cricket, or in my case try to play and often fail.

Maybe "desperate" was not the right phrasing, but i stand by the comment overall.

I never intimated that someone specifically said they did not want to play. Hey, it was just the feeling i got, maybe i was wrong. Just another personal opinion which every has a go at.

My opinion is that i would rather play a gf and lose then win by weather. As in, if we where top of the ladder and somehow given the option for a definate premiership by walkover or to take the gamble to playgf, i would say play everytime.

Most would disagree but we play cricket to play under all sorts of conditions and usually the best team will prevail.

Anyway, its a mute point anyway, with 150 overs this week the game will get a result but glenroy would have to be red hot favorites.

ps. far be it for me to defend st marys, as i am not there most favoured competitior, but surely we realise that they where taking the piss out of each other as a gag like the majority of posts on this site. (mine included)

LOL.... we like you Deano we just like to stir you about your stupid hat and how your an individual and why you don't wear a team hat....
Although i do have a question to ask Do you need to wash that hat after every sat that you bat? cause i'm assuming you wouldn't be sweating that much out in the middle lol.......

 

[Hit 4 6]

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So you don't think i'll get 400 hay, , I no for a fact you have not seen me bat. Actually no one saw me bat this year.
I may have been a run machine in a previous life or FFNB may be on the mark, I may be just a fat old no good park cricketer.

And as far as the bet goes for slab, I think your on stop credit as I believe I have one every bet we have had this year and the boys in black suits may be coming for ya!!!!!

Kingy[/QUOTE

So your scared to take the bet on? I will pay next time i see you... If you turned up to mad monday you would of had it then plus i will just win it back next time you hold a cards night.....