mmvca

[aussiefan]

Re: mmvca

they might aswell merge the comps at the end of this year it will be the best thing for both comps,and make a decent matting league

 

[son of milky bill]

Re: mmvca

they might aswell merge the comps at the end of this year it will be the best thing for both comps,and make a decent matting league

If they merge they will not scrap turf They will have both comps running. which will mean any clubs in your comp who wsh to play turf can do so and the rest will remain in matting so they will almost be like 2 seperate comps A-Turf down to maybe D or E turf. Then the same for mats. It would be interesting how the determined the initial A grade teams if they did merge. Say for example it was a 10 team comp would they pick the 5 clubs from each comp based on ladder positions this year or would they base it on overall history of clubs. If done by ladder positions you would see "strong" clubs like St francis and West Coburg missing out to teams that have had exceptional seasons as opposed to long term success like the 2 clubs mentioned. Very interesting but they would have to do it that way I would say and base it on ladder positions.

 

[Gladyboy]

Re: mmvca

So why then are you so worried about any good batsmen and bowlers in our comp if you guys are going to pull our pants down next year if the merger goes ahead. It seems you faced the 'best' bowlers and bowled to the 'best' batsmen in that comp game and smashed us, so you'll have nothing to worry about.

What are your thoughts on our talent? What have you heard about our competition in terms of standard? Players? Etc

Was the comp game played on mats or synthetic?

How did Glady go this year? Finals? Who are your players to watch from our point of view?

I wasnt asking due to fear more curiosty.

in reality who knows what comp is better I guess we will see if they merge Im sure there are great players in both comps

Glady have played in 12 of the last 13 finals series we are one of the better clubs along with Paccoe and more recently Taylors Lakes.

Our best players are john Markham ex north Melb Distrist bat and Heath Shephard who played in jika for years most famous for making 280 out of 330 in a semi over there.

Other gun players in comp are Paul Thomas Taylors Lakes

Cameron Hare pascoe vale and Clint McKays brother Scott is also becoming a good player

The list goes on this a few

 

[son of milky bill]

Re: mmvca

apparently st andrews in-form batsman neville taylor has slipped disks in his back during their last round game against east coburg...

the physio has ruled him out for 5-6 weeks, but he is very keen to play.
it will be interesting to see wether he makes any runs...@|

If he can hold a bat he will play i will depend on how he feels batting at training you would say. They are not stupid and if he can't play they will not risk him. St Andrews had a sub fielder for him last week against East Coburg.

Has anyone heard as to where this weeks A Turf finals are being played

 

[wetdeck]

Re: mmvca

apparently st andrews in-form batsman neville taylor has slipped disks in his back during their last round game against east coburg...

the physio has ruled him out for 5-6 weeks, but he is very keen to play.
it will be interesting to see wether he makes any runs...@|

 

[F.O.S]

Re: mmvca

If he can hold a bat he will play i will depend on how he feels batting at training you would say. They are not stupid and if he can't play they will not risk him. St Andrews had a sub fielder for him last week against East Coburg.

Has anyone heard as to where this weeks A Turf finals are being played

Do you know the story about the old bull and the young bull.

They are up on the mountain looking down at the cows below,when the young bull says lets hurry down and get one,which the old bull replies,lets take our time and get the lot.

Nev will play !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[son of milky bill]

Re: mmvca

they might aswell merge the comps at the end of this year it will be the best thing for both comps,and make a decent matting league

If they merge they will not scrap turf They will have both comps running. which will mean any clubs in your comp who wsh to play turf can do so and the rest will remain in matting so they will almost be like 2 seperate comps A-Turf down to maybe D or E turf. Then the same for mats. It would be interesting how the determined the initial A grade teams if they did merge. Say for example it was a 10 team comp would they pick the 5 clubs from each comp based on ladder positions this year or would they base it on overall history of clubs. If done by ladder positions you would see "strong" clubs like St francis and West Coburg missing out to teams that have had exceptional seasons as opposed to long term success like the 2 clubs mentioned. Very interesting but they would have to do it that way I would say and base it on ladder positions.

 

[ALCOA]

Re: mmvca

I wasnt asking due to fear more curiosty.

in reality who knows what comp is better I guess we will see if they merge Im sure there are great players in both comps

Glady have played in 12 of the last 13 finals series we are one of the better clubs along with Paccoe and more recently Taylors Lakes.

Our best players are john Markham ex north Melb Distrist bat and Heath Shephard who played in jika for years most famous for making 280 out of 330 in a semi over there.

Other gun players in comp are Paul Thomas Taylors Lakes

Cameron Hare pascoe vale and Clint McKays brother Scott is also becoming a good player

The list goes on this a few

look like you backed off a bit when you heard the rep match was only A matting temas and no one from the turf grades. To give you some food for thought, out turf rep side has crucshed Coburg Subbies the last 3 years running!!

would love to see you guys come and play real cricket instead of straight up and down synthetic.

 

[son of milky bill]

Re: mmvca

apparently st andrews in-form batsman neville taylor has slipped disks in his back during their last round game against east coburg...

the physio has ruled him out for 5-6 weeks, but he is very keen to play.
it will be interesting to see wether he makes any runs...@|

If he can hold a bat he will play i will depend on how he feels batting at training you would say. They are not stupid and if he can't play they will not risk him. St Andrews had a sub fielder for him last week against East Coburg.

Has anyone heard as to where this weeks A Turf finals are being played

 

[ALCOA]

Re: mmvca

Do you know the story about the old bull and the young bull.

They are up on the mountain looking down at the cows below,when the young bull says lets hurry down and get one,which the old bull replies,lets take our time and get the lot.

Nev will play !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but a wise man said, you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink!

Nev will miss out

 

[F.O.S]

Re: mmvca

If he can hold a bat he will play i will depend on how he feels batting at training you would say. They are not stupid and if he can't play they will not risk him. St Andrews had a sub fielder for him last week against East Coburg.

Has anyone heard as to where this weeks A Turf finals are being played

Do you know the story about the old bull and the young bull.

They are up on the mountain looking down at the cows below,when the young bull says lets hurry down and get one,which the old bull replies,lets take our time and get the lot.

Nev will play !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[F.O.S]

Re: mmvca

but a wise man said, you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink!

Nev will miss out

That's what makes a great team,if you are thisty enough you will certainly have a drink.

Touche,good comeback though!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ALCOA]

Re: mmvca

I wasnt asking due to fear more curiosty.

in reality who knows what comp is better I guess we will see if they merge Im sure there are great players in both comps

Glady have played in 12 of the last 13 finals series we are one of the better clubs along with Paccoe and more recently Taylors Lakes.

Our best players are john Markham ex north Melb Distrist bat and Heath Shephard who played in jika for years most famous for making 280 out of 330 in a semi over there.

Other gun players in comp are Paul Thomas Taylors Lakes

Cameron Hare pascoe vale and Clint McKays brother Scott is also becoming a good player

The list goes on this a few

look like you backed off a bit when you heard the rep match was only A matting temas and no one from the turf grades. To give you some food for thought, out turf rep side has crucshed Coburg Subbies the last 3 years running!!

would love to see you guys come and play real cricket instead of straight up and down synthetic.

 

[F.O.S]

Re: mmvca

but a wise man said, you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink!

Nev will miss out

Sad to hear our 2's didn't make it,but in a negative there is always a positive and it know gives us an oppurtunity to stack our 1sts leading into the finals.

All says for a good finals series and congradulations to all that made it and best wishes to all concerned in the finals(a little tongue in cheek)

Great finals atmosphere at Brierley on Saturday with the result going down to the wire with so many senario's in the making till the final result.

My tips for the semi's

Hopefully the Saints will be with us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ALCOA]

Re: mmvca

Do you know the story about the old bull and the young bull.

They are up on the mountain looking down at the cows below,when the young bull says lets hurry down and get one,which the old bull replies,lets take our time and get the lot.

Nev will play !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but a wise man said, you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink!

Nev will miss out

 

[Old School]

Re: mmvca

Do you know the story about the old bull and the young bull.

They are up on the mountain looking down at the cows below,when the young bull says lets hurry down and get one,which the old bull replies,lets take our time and get the lot.

Nev will play !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I was the Socials, Neville would not be allowed to have any young bulls being a runner or a sub fielder for him.

 

[F.O.S]

Re: mmvca

but a wise man said, you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink!

Nev will miss out

That's what makes a great team,if you are thisty enough you will certainly have a drink.

Touche,good comeback though!!!!!!!!!!

 

[son of milky bill]

Re: mmvca

If I was the Socials, Neville would not be allowed to have any young bulls being a runner or a sub fielder for him.

Thats a very good point. Does anyone know the rule in relation to having a runner for an injury sustained in previous weeks. as far as I am aware the batter must run for himself if it is an injury carried into the game which it will be. If thats the rule then the socials would be stupid to let the guy bat with a runner and as a socials player it wont be happening.

Not sure how it works with sub fielders either. Please inform me as to the rule if you know it

 

[F.O.S]

Re: mmvca

but a wise man said, you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink!

Nev will miss out

Sad to hear our 2's didn't make it,but in a negative there is always a positive and it know gives us an oppurtunity to stack our 1sts leading into the finals.

All says for a good finals series and congradulations to all that made it and best wishes to all concerned in the finals(a little tongue in cheek)

Great finals atmosphere at Brierley on Saturday with the result going down to the wire with so many senario's in the making till the final result.

My tips for the semi's

Hopefully the Saints will be with us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[white skins]

Re: mmvca

apparently st andrews in-form batsman neville taylor has slipped disks in his back during their last round game against east coburg...

the physio has ruled him out for 5-6 weeks, but he is very keen to play.
it will be interesting to see wether he makes any runs...@|

I reckon if he plays he might have a little trouble asking for a runner considering he will be carrying the injury into the game. The opposing captain has to agree to the player having a runner. I'm tipping Socials will be onto that. If he can't run he won't play.

 

[Old School]

Re: mmvca

Do you know the story about the old bull and the young bull.

They are up on the mountain looking down at the cows below,when the young bull says lets hurry down and get one,which the old bull replies,lets take our time and get the lot.

Nev will play !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I was the Socials, Neville would not be allowed to have any young bulls being a runner or a sub fielder for him.

 

[Dr Ben Dover]

Re: mmvca

Thats a very good point. Does anyone know the rule in relation to having a runner for an injury sustained in previous weeks. as far as I am aware the batter must run for himself if it is an injury carried into the game which it will be. If thats the rule then the socials would be stupid to let the guy bat with a runner and as a socials player it wont be happening.

Not sure how it works with sub fielders either. Please inform me as to the rule if you know it

As far as im aware SOMB your correct mate. Socials are aware of his injury so if he takes it into the match they can decline a runner for him. With a sub-fielder im fairly sure he also needs consent from Socials - but it gets a bit tricky here because he might be ok to start the game and then (accidently ) re-injure himself....

 

[son of milky bill]

Re: mmvca

If I was the Socials, Neville would not be allowed to have any young bulls being a runner or a sub fielder for him.

Thats a very good point. Does anyone know the rule in relation to having a runner for an injury sustained in previous weeks. as far as I am aware the batter must run for himself if it is an injury carried into the game which it will be. If thats the rule then the socials would be stupid to let the guy bat with a runner and as a socials player it wont be happening.

Not sure how it works with sub fielders either. Please inform me as to the rule if you know it

 

[essendon2000]

Re: mmvca

Thats a very good point. Does anyone know the rule in relation to having a runner for an injury sustained in previous weeks. as far as I am aware the batter must run for himself if it is an injury carried into the game which it will be. If thats the rule then the socials would be stupid to let the guy bat with a runner and as a socials player it wont be happening.

Not sure how it works with sub fielders either. Please inform me as to the rule if you know it

yeah no sub

 

[white skins]

Re: mmvca

apparently st andrews in-form batsman neville taylor has slipped disks in his back during their last round game against east coburg...

the physio has ruled him out for 5-6 weeks, but he is very keen to play.
it will be interesting to see wether he makes any runs...@|

I reckon if he plays he might have a little trouble asking for a runner considering he will be carrying the injury into the game. The opposing captain has to agree to the player having a runner. I'm tipping Socials will be onto that. If he can't run he won't play.

 

[Deano]

Re: mmvca

Good luck to everyone on the weekend.

St Marys have done well but Easts will give them a shake as their bowling is ok and they play spin well.

That is the key to St Marys team, trying to tie up the middle overs with spin and trying to force the batsmen to make a mistake.

whilst this will work for 2 day cricket, over a game lasting 4 days it coulkd be their achilles heal.

Thay should beat easts but Socials vs St Andrews is the key game.

If socials win, St Marys win the flag after close semi win.

If St Andrews win they will beat St Marys.

St Marys would be hoping for a Socials win because of the two sides that is who i would rather play. Plus the fact they beat them outright during the year, not withstanding they have picked up a bat and and a bowler since.

 

[Dr Ben Dover]

Re: mmvca

Thats a very good point. Does anyone know the rule in relation to having a runner for an injury sustained in previous weeks. as far as I am aware the batter must run for himself if it is an injury carried into the game which it will be. If thats the rule then the socials would be stupid to let the guy bat with a runner and as a socials player it wont be happening.

Not sure how it works with sub fielders either. Please inform me as to the rule if you know it

As far as im aware SOMB your correct mate. Socials are aware of his injury so if he takes it into the match they can decline a runner for him. With a sub-fielder im fairly sure he also needs consent from Socials - but it gets a bit tricky here because he might be ok to start the game and then (accidently ) re-injure himself....

 

[Champ is here]

Re: mmvca

Good luck to everyone on the weekend.

St Marys have done well but Easts will give them a shake as their bowling is ok and they play spin well.

That is the key to St Marys team, trying to tie up the middle overs with spin and trying to force the batsmen to make a mistake.

whilst this will work for 2 day cricket, over a game lasting 4 days it coulkd be their achilles heal.

Thay should beat easts but Socials vs St Andrews is the key game.

If socials win, St Marys win the flag after close semi win.

If St Andrews win they will beat St Marys.

St Marys would be hoping for a Socials win because of the two sides that is who i would rather play. Plus the fact they beat them outright during the year, not withstanding they have picked up a bat and and a bowler since.

i'm shaw if u checked ur records u would see that tha socials slapped st mary's with a fairly undermaned side so u would want to do some research before u open ur fat gob

 

[essendon2000]

Re: mmvca

Thats a very good point. Does anyone know the rule in relation to having a runner for an injury sustained in previous weeks. as far as I am aware the batter must run for himself if it is an injury carried into the game which it will be. If thats the rule then the socials would be stupid to let the guy bat with a runner and as a socials player it wont be happening.

Not sure how it works with sub fielders either. Please inform me as to the rule if you know it

yeah no sub

 

[Hirdy05_]

Re: mmvca

i'm shaw if u checked ur records u would see that tha socials slapped st mary's with a fairly undermaned side so u would want to do some research before u open ur fat gob

I think he speaking about St Andrews

 

[Deano]

Re: mmvca

Good luck to everyone on the weekend.

St Marys have done well but Easts will give them a shake as their bowling is ok and they play spin well.

That is the key to St Marys team, trying to tie up the middle overs with spin and trying to force the batsmen to make a mistake.

whilst this will work for 2 day cricket, over a game lasting 4 days it coulkd be their achilles heal.

Thay should beat easts but Socials vs St Andrews is the key game.

If socials win, St Marys win the flag after close semi win.

If St Andrews win they will beat St Marys.

St Marys would be hoping for a Socials win because of the two sides that is who i would rather play. Plus the fact they beat them outright during the year, not withstanding they have picked up a bat and and a bowler since.

 

[white skins]

Re: mmvca

Good luck to everyone on the weekend.

St Marys have done well but Easts will give them a shake as their bowling is ok and they play spin well.

That is the key to St Marys team, trying to tie up the middle overs with spin and trying to force the batsmen to make a mistake.

whilst this will work for 2 day cricket, over a game lasting 4 days it coulkd be their achilles heal.

Thay should beat easts but Socials vs St Andrews is the key game.

If socials win, St Marys win the flag after close semi win.

If St Andrews win they will beat St Marys.

St Marys would be hoping for a Socials win because of the two sides that is who i would rather play. Plus the fact they beat them outright during the year, not withstanding they have picked up a bat and and a bowler since.

I think it could well be a cracking finals series. i'm tending to lean towards the winner of the socials v st andrews match winning the flag purely due to finals experience. St andrews reining premiers will not give up their title easy and are a quality side with a lot of experience. Socials played off in G.F the year before beaten by good St Francis side, may well have learnt a lot from this. Easts and St Mary's both good sides but finals is a new ball game. Not sure if there is as much experience there. Please correct me if i'm wrong. St mary's on high though. All the best to all teams.

 

[Champ is here]

Re: mmvca

Good luck to everyone on the weekend.

St Marys have done well but Easts will give them a shake as their bowling is ok and they play spin well.

That is the key to St Marys team, trying to tie up the middle overs with spin and trying to force the batsmen to make a mistake.

whilst this will work for 2 day cricket, over a game lasting 4 days it coulkd be their achilles heal.

Thay should beat easts but Socials vs St Andrews is the key game.

If socials win, St Marys win the flag after close semi win.

If St Andrews win they will beat St Marys.

St Marys would be hoping for a Socials win because of the two sides that is who i would rather play. Plus the fact they beat them outright during the year, not withstanding they have picked up a bat and and a bowler since.

i'm shaw if u checked ur records u would see that tha socials slapped st mary's with a fairly undermaned side so u would want to do some research before u open ur fat gob

 

[Deano]

Re: mmvca

I think he speaking about St Andrews

Thats whom i was talking about. St Andrews beat St Marys outright, from my understanding socials lost to them. Not sure what their on about

 

[Hirdy05_]

Re: mmvca

i'm shaw if u checked ur records u would see that tha socials slapped st mary's with a fairly undermaned side so u would want to do some research before u open ur fat gob

I think he speaking about St Andrews

 

[son of milky bill]

Re: mmvca

Sad to hear our 2's didn't make it,but in a negative there is always a positive and it know gives us an oppurtunity to stack our 1sts leading into the finals.

All says for a good finals series and congradulations to all that made it and best wishes to all concerned in the finals(a little tongue in cheek)

Great finals atmosphere at Brierley on Saturday with the result going down to the wire with so many senario's in the making till the final result.

My tips for the semi's

Hopefully the Saints will be with us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As a socials player I hope you do stack your 1s full of 2s players.

 

[white skins]

Re: mmvca

Good luck to everyone on the weekend.

St Marys have done well but Easts will give them a shake as their bowling is ok and they play spin well.

That is the key to St Marys team, trying to tie up the middle overs with spin and trying to force the batsmen to make a mistake.

whilst this will work for 2 day cricket, over a game lasting 4 days it coulkd be their achilles heal.

Thay should beat easts but Socials vs St Andrews is the key game.

If socials win, St Marys win the flag after close semi win.

If St Andrews win they will beat St Marys.

St Marys would be hoping for a Socials win because of the two sides that is who i would rather play. Plus the fact they beat them outright during the year, not withstanding they have picked up a bat and and a bowler since.

I think it could well be a cracking finals series. i'm tending to lean towards the winner of the socials v st andrews match winning the flag purely due to finals experience. St andrews reining premiers will not give up their title easy and are a quality side with a lot of experience. Socials played off in G.F the year before beaten by good St Francis side, may well have learnt a lot from this. Easts and St Mary's both good sides but finals is a new ball game. Not sure if there is as much experience there. Please correct me if i'm wrong. St mary's on high though. All the best to all teams.

 

[son of milky bill]

Re: mmvca

Thats whom i was talking about. St Andrews beat St Marys outright, from my understanding socials lost to them. Not sure what their on about

Socials defeated St mary's in Round 2 convincingly only losing late wickets 2 or 3 in the last 5 runs to make the st mary's defeat credible. This was the first game of the season as round 1 was R/S. A lot has happened since then and St Mary's would have grown in confidence since then will be 2 completely different teams as Socials have 3 or 4 different players and st mary's are more confident in their ability. Although that being said neither team is i the grand final yet and are both a long way from that game

 

[Deano]

Re: mmvca

I think he speaking about St Andrews

Thats whom i was talking about. St Andrews beat St Marys outright, from my understanding socials lost to them. Not sure what their on about

 

[upthesaints]

Re: mmvca

Thats a very good point. Does anyone know the rule in relation to having a runner for an injury sustained in previous weeks. as far as I am aware the batter must run for himself if it is an injury carried into the game which it will be. If thats the rule then the socials would be stupid to let the guy bat with a runner and as a socials player it wont be happening.

Not sure how it works with sub fielders either. Please inform me as to the rule if you know it

The rule for runners and substitute fielders are as follows

1. Substitutes and runners
(a) If the umpires are satisfied that a player has been injured or become ill after the nomination of the players, they shall allow that player to have
(i) a substitute acting instead of him in the field.
(ii) a runner when batting.
Any injury or illness that occurs at any time after the nomination of the players until the conclusion of the match shall be allowable, irrespective of whether play is in progress or not.


So by the sounds of that St Andrews nor any other club would not be able to use a sub fielder if it is known that a player has taken in a injury into the game. However at this level its a pretty hard thing to enforce.... How does the umpires on the day know that a player has taken an injury into the game? Unless of course say for example Nevelle Taylor didn't field the week before and Umpire A was umpiring when Nevelle didn't field due to an injury sustained in that game and Umpire A is also umpiring the following week when the same occures. I dont think the Umpires can take here say on these matters, even then its still going to be pretty hard to prove that he wasn't 100% fit going into the game? I think the runner thing will be hard to get for Saint Andrews but not allowing a fielder will be a little more diffiult even though they are undfer the same rule.

By the way the rule stated above also moves on to say....

(b) The umpires shall have discretion, for other wholly acceptable reasons, to allow a substitute for a fielder, or a runner for a batsman, at the start of the match or at any subsequent time.

So reading into that if the umpires let him have a fielder field for him they probably couldn't say no to a runner as its the same rule.

Anyway.... In my opinion Nifty will play. He loves the club to much and playing cricket to much to not play. He is not the youngest player in the club and there wont be to many more chances for him to play in Grand Finals so he will give it everything he has got. Plus I think the club will want and need him to play because the depth in batting in there 2's is not that great. The possible players who would replace him are Ryan Doidge (even Ryano would admit he has had a shocker of a year!), Micky Hamilton (averages 9 with the bat for the club) or most likely the in form 2's batsmen Georgey Salenro (around 350 runs for the season at about 40).

Even though I'm obviously a little biased I think if St Andrews fire they will be the team to beat without doubt.