Piston Broke
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Don't think either side had any guests,i really don't see a problem of having one,adds a bit of interest to the game.
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Piston Broke
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Melton"s protest against Ivanhoe was upheld last night which drops Ivanhoe to 10th and extends Melton's lead to 5 points over Willy.
I guess if you don't cover your wicket you don't have a leg to stand on and the right decision was made.
I guess if you don't cover your wicket you don't have a leg to stand on and the right decision was made.
Round the grounds
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Agree that Ivanhoe had to be held responsible for failing to lay the covers. I hope at least privately the umpires were reprimanded for calling the game off at 1pm before even an over had been lost, not acceptable in my view.
Were they also fined for failing to lay the cover? I seem to recall, years ago, Sunshine being fined $500 for this .
Round the grounds
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Not sure if they were fined
Brenton Ray
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VSDCA North/West 1st XI revised ladder (after Melton won the protest on Monday Night):
1 Melton 54
2 Williamstown 49
3 Brunswick 48
4 Kew 42
5 Plenty Valley 36
6 Werribee 33
7 Yarraville 33
8 Altona 30
9 St Bernard’s 30
10 Ivanhoe 30
11 Hoppers Crossing 30
12 Taylors Lakes 21
13 Preston 21
14 Coburg 9
Round 12 – Saturday February 17 & Saturday February 24:
Yarraville v St Bernard’s at Yarraville Oval
Ivanhoe v Plenty Valley at Ivanhoe Park
Altona v Williamstown at Frank Kirk Oval
Hoppers Crossing v Melton at Hogans Road Reserve
Coburg v Preston at Coburg City Oval
Kew v Brunswick at Victoria Park
Werribee v Taylors Lakes at Chirnside Park
Round 13 – Saturday March 3:
Plenty Valley v Altona at AK Line Reserve
Williamstown v Hoppers Crossing at Burbank Oval
Melton v Coburg at MacPherson Park
Preston v Kew at Preston City Oval
Brunswick v Werribee at AJ Gillon Oval
Taylors Lakes v Yarraville at Lionheart Reserve
St Bernard’s v Ivanhoe at Murphy Oval
What an incredible finish to the 2017/18 VSDCA North/West group home and away season looming large as between 5th & 11th there is only 6 points separating the seven clubs and as between 6th & 11th there is only 3 points separating the six clubs were in for a thrilling finale to see who books final three finals tickets.
1 Melton 54
2 Williamstown 49
3 Brunswick 48
4 Kew 42
5 Plenty Valley 36
6 Werribee 33
7 Yarraville 33
8 Altona 30
9 St Bernard’s 30
10 Ivanhoe 30
11 Hoppers Crossing 30
12 Taylors Lakes 21
13 Preston 21
14 Coburg 9
Round 12 – Saturday February 17 & Saturday February 24:
Yarraville v St Bernard’s at Yarraville Oval
Ivanhoe v Plenty Valley at Ivanhoe Park
Altona v Williamstown at Frank Kirk Oval
Hoppers Crossing v Melton at Hogans Road Reserve
Coburg v Preston at Coburg City Oval
Kew v Brunswick at Victoria Park
Werribee v Taylors Lakes at Chirnside Park
Round 13 – Saturday March 3:
Plenty Valley v Altona at AK Line Reserve
Williamstown v Hoppers Crossing at Burbank Oval
Melton v Coburg at MacPherson Park
Preston v Kew at Preston City Oval
Brunswick v Werribee at AJ Gillon Oval
Taylors Lakes v Yarraville at Lionheart Reserve
St Bernard’s v Ivanhoe at Murphy Oval
What an incredible finish to the 2017/18 VSDCA North/West group home and away season looming large as between 5th & 11th there is only 6 points separating the seven clubs and as between 6th & 11th there is only 3 points separating the six clubs were in for a thrilling finale to see who books final three finals tickets.
Brenton Ray
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VSDCA North/West group 1st XI - round 12 (week 1 results):
Hoppers Crossing 1/18 (require 118 to win) v Melton 135 all out at Hogans Road Reserve
Altona 9/239 (cc) v Williamstown (require 240 to win next week) at Frank Kirk Oval
Coburg 2/42 (require 85 to win) v Preston 126 all out at Coburg City Oval
Ivanhoe (require 307 to win) v Plenty Valley 9/306 (cc) at Ivanhoe Park
Kew (require 263 to win) v Brunswick 5/262 at Victoria Park
Werribee 181 all out v Taylors Lakes 1/61 (require 121 to win) at Chirnside Park
Yarraville 5/380 (cc) v St Bernard's (require 381 to win) at Yarraville Oval
VSDCA South/East group 1st XI - round 12 (week 1 results):
Malvern 247 all out v Ormond (require 248 to win) at Malvern Cricket Ground
Box Hill 208 all out v Balwyn (require 209 to win) at Box Hill City Oval
Brighton 1/10 (require 175 to win) v Elsternwick 184 all out at Brighton Beach Oval
Endeavour Hills (require 371 to win) v Croydon 7/370 (cc) at Sydney Parageter Reserve
Moorabbin 101 all out v Bayswater 4/150 (49 runs in front on 1st innings) at Moorleigh Community Village
Mt Waverley (require 238 to win) v Noble Park 237 all out at Mt Waverley Reserve
Oakleigh (require 339 to win) v Caulfield 338 all out at Warrawee Park Oval
Hoppers Crossing 1/18 (require 118 to win) v Melton 135 all out at Hogans Road Reserve
Altona 9/239 (cc) v Williamstown (require 240 to win next week) at Frank Kirk Oval
Coburg 2/42 (require 85 to win) v Preston 126 all out at Coburg City Oval
Ivanhoe (require 307 to win) v Plenty Valley 9/306 (cc) at Ivanhoe Park
Kew (require 263 to win) v Brunswick 5/262 at Victoria Park
Werribee 181 all out v Taylors Lakes 1/61 (require 121 to win) at Chirnside Park
Yarraville 5/380 (cc) v St Bernard's (require 381 to win) at Yarraville Oval
VSDCA South/East group 1st XI - round 12 (week 1 results):
Malvern 247 all out v Ormond (require 248 to win) at Malvern Cricket Ground
Box Hill 208 all out v Balwyn (require 209 to win) at Box Hill City Oval
Brighton 1/10 (require 175 to win) v Elsternwick 184 all out at Brighton Beach Oval
Endeavour Hills (require 371 to win) v Croydon 7/370 (cc) at Sydney Parageter Reserve
Moorabbin 101 all out v Bayswater 4/150 (49 runs in front on 1st innings) at Moorleigh Community Village
Mt Waverley (require 238 to win) v Noble Park 237 all out at Mt Waverley Reserve
Oakleigh (require 339 to win) v Caulfield 338 all out at Warrawee Park Oval
Baysie collecting 10 against Moorabbin must be a timely godsend for them, sures up finals. You'd be spewing if you were washed out in a two dayer against them, 7 points lost!
Caulfield has more depth than the continental shelf. Thorne, Anthony, Rummans, Cross out 'cheaply', yesssss, we are into them here boys; nek minnit, the Denny and Warren show! Give them the flag now; unless Malvern finish 6th and Thorne or Rummo have a wedding to go to on the Saturday of the final
Turf Cricket
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As it will be for a fair few clubs going forward.
Allenkey33
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Forecast rain for Saturday is it not? Makes things even more interesting with the top 6 so hotly contested across both comps.
The 3rds & 4ths should be split into an 8 team division 1 and a 6 team division 2.
The bottom sides getting slaughtered each week does nothing for their player development.
All you want when you turn up to a game of sport as a player is an even contest and that is not happening now and hasn't been happening for a number of years.
Going on results over the last 2 seasons, South East might then look something like this
Division 1
Oakleigh
Malvern
Box Hill
Bayswater
Mount Waverley
Croydon
Balwyn
Brighton
Division 2
Caulfield
Elsternwick
Moorabbin
Endeavour Hills
Ormond
Noble Park
Both comps would have a final 4 which would see 8 teams play finals instead of the current 6.
Start finals st the same time as 1sts and 2nds meaning the GF'S are on prelim final weekend and all the attention can go to the 1sts & 2nds Grand Finals as the last games of the season
The bottom sides getting slaughtered each week does nothing for their player development.
All you want when you turn up to a game of sport as a player is an even contest and that is not happening now and hasn't been happening for a number of years.
Going on results over the last 2 seasons, South East might then look something like this
Division 1
Oakleigh
Malvern
Box Hill
Bayswater
Mount Waverley
Croydon
Balwyn
Brighton
Division 2
Caulfield
Elsternwick
Moorabbin
Endeavour Hills
Ormond
Noble Park
Both comps would have a final 4 which would see 8 teams play finals instead of the current 6.
Start finals st the same time as 1sts and 2nds meaning the GF'S are on prelim final weekend and all the attention can go to the 1sts & 2nds Grand Finals as the last games of the season
Isn't this just making the competition more even for those clubs who spend megabucks on their 1st XI and don't care about their 4th XI? I guess you could call Division 2 the 5th XI, but I doubt that having your fourths playing in the 5th XI grade would change the minds of the executive of those who ignore their lower XIs. Winning 1st XI flags seems to be more important than building a club from the bottom up.
Turf Cricket
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Maybe regional cricket might make more sense for all grades.
This has got noting to do with the 1st eleven.
This proposal is about creating interesting and even games of cricket across the association. Each week there are 56 games of cricket played but in the lower elevens too many are one sided which isn't good for either team.
There are lots of clubs who focus on the club as a whole (Oakleigh & Plenty Valley being the stand outs in recent years)
You ingore your lower elevens at your own peril
Round the grounds
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Gees, one forfeit and the CSB trolls come running out. I had been enjoying the peace and quiet that followed Whale and co nearly losing their gigs at the CV AGM. How many forfeits in CSB this season? How many clubs have at least 4 teams? And before the trolls trundle out the old travel furphy, your comp runs from Port Melbourne to Bonbeach so pop that old chestnut in the bin where it belongs. If CV were serious about reducing travel, they wouldn't have 15 year olds in Premier 4th XI's travelling from Frankston to Geelong to Greenvale to Greensborough to Ringwood to Cranbourne.
BTW, in relation to VSDCA 4th XI's, some clubs remunerate or incentivise their Coach in part on the performance of XI's below the firsts, not a bad strategy I reckon.
BTW, in relation to VSDCA 4th XI's, some clubs remunerate or incentivise their Coach in part on the performance of XI's below the firsts, not a bad strategy I reckon.
I totally agree with your comments regarding the travel required in PREMIER 3rds & 4ths.
Putting premier cricket aside - I just think we could make the Subbies lower elevens function better for strong clubs and weaker clubs, which would keep everyone more engaged in the competition and cricket in general.
Happy to drive from Croydon to Moorabbin if there is a good game of cricket involved.
Random Truths
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It's always an interesting discussion around this time of year about what to do with the 4th XI at VSDCA level. Subbies have tried a few things this year which I commend them on (i.e. One Dayers before Xmas, 40/40 split innings match)
4th XI - when used correctly - is such a critical cog for all Clubs. it's where you should be nurturing your younger juniors into Senior Cricket, and giving them a sense of presence and belonging to a Club as they transition to purely Senior Cricket.
I know some Clubs struggle to field a 4th XI, sometimes every week, but the finger can't be solely pointed at the Exec Level. Clubs need to own recruitment, player welfare, Junior Cricket transition etc in order to be successful.
4th XI - when used correctly - is such a critical cog for all Clubs. it's where you should be nurturing your younger juniors into Senior Cricket, and giving them a sense of presence and belonging to a Club as they transition to purely Senior Cricket.
I know some Clubs struggle to field a 4th XI, sometimes every week, but the finger can't be solely pointed at the Exec Level. Clubs need to own recruitment, player welfare, Junior Cricket transition etc in order to be successful.