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It's always an interesting discussion around this time of year about what to do with the 4th XI at VSDCA level. Subbies have tried a few things this year which I commend them on (i.e. One Dayers before Xmas, 40/40 split innings match)
4th XI - when used correctly - is such a critical cog for all Clubs. it's where you should be nurturing your younger juniors into Senior Cricket, and giving them a sense of presence and belonging to a Club as they transition to purely Senior Cricket.
I know some Clubs struggle to field a 4th XI, sometimes every week, but the finger can't be solely pointed at the Exec Level. Clubs need to own recruitment, player welfare, Junior Cricket transition etc in order to be successful.
If Greater Melbourne's population continues to boom at the present rate of 110,000 per year, regionalisation becomes more likely.Maybe regional cricket might make more sense for all grades.
Wouldn't making the 4ths all one day games solve the problems or am i being too simplistic?
It's always an interesting discussion around this time of year about what to do with the 4th XI at VSDCA level. Subbies have tried a few things this year which I commend them on (i.e. One Dayers before Xmas, 40/40 split innings match)
4th XI - when used correctly - is such a critical cog for all Clubs. it's where you should be nurturing your younger juniors into Senior Cricket, and giving them a sense of presence and belonging to a Club as they transition to purely Senior Cricket.
I know some Clubs struggle to field a 4th XI, sometimes every week, but the finger can't be solely pointed at the Exec Level. Clubs need to own recruitment, player welfare, Junior Cricket transition etc in order to be successful.
Maybe a few of you need to get your heads out of your arse, it's a dying comp and no promotion relegation has added to that.Gees, one forfeit and the CSB trolls come running out. I had been enjoying the peace and quiet that followed Whale and co nearly losing their gigs at the CV AGM. How many forfeits in CSB this season? How many clubs have at least 4 teams? And before the trolls trundle out the old travel furphy, your comp runs from Port Melbourne to Bonbeach so pop that old chestnut in the bin where it belongs. If CV were serious about reducing travel, they wouldn't have 15 year olds in Premier 4th XI's travelling from Frankston to Geelong to Greenvale to Greensborough to Ringwood to Cranbourne.
BTW, in relation to VSDCA 4th XI's, some clubs remunerate or incentivise their Coach in part on the performance of XI's below the firsts, not a bad strategy I reckon.
Maybe a few of you need to get your heads out of your arse, it's a dying comp and no promotion relegation has added to that.
Thanks Turfie, insightful as always...
I see this years CSB is a real good one. Hampton and Bentleigh are in a do or die struggle to see who gets knocked out by South Caulfield in the Semi. And the battle for Runners Up looks a great one between Carnegie and Bentleigh. South Caulfield are going to need a carpenter down at Princes Park to upgrade the trophy cabinet. One win between the bottom two clubs, Chelsea obviously struggled with the travel.
Not all that very different to the South/East group. Somebody here has said "Caulfield has more depth than the continental shelf. Thorne, Anthony, Rummans, Cross out 'cheaply', yesssss, we are into them here boys; nek minnit, the Denny and Warren show! Give them the flag now".Thanks Turfie, insightful as always...
I see this years CSB is a real good one. Hampton and Bentleigh are in a do or die struggle to see who gets knocked out by South Caulfield in the Semi. And the battle for Runners Up looks a great one between Carnegie and Bentleigh. South Caulfield are going to need a carpenter down at Princes Park to upgrade the trophy cabinet. One win between the bottom two clubs, Chelsea obviously struggled with the travel.
You are as aware as I that CSB was not part of CV's original regional plan. It was an opportunistic venture by CV to take advantage of the VTCA's failure to meet the needs of Bayside clubs and, in consequence, has significant shortcomings.
Not all that very different to the South/East group. Somebody here has said "Caulfield has more depth than the continental shelf. Thorne, Anthony, Rummans, Cross out 'cheaply', yesssss, we are into them here boys; nek minnit, the Denny and Warren show! Give them the flag now".
It's not yet , but will improve every season. Troll is far from it, it's the future. Just give it a chanceNot sure the CSB trolls agree with you Westland, they seem to think it is quite special.
It's not yet , but will improve every season. Troll is far from it, it's the future. Just give it a chance
The old boys at Subbies clubs are, I talk to quite a few younger lads and they're happy not to travel.Subbies has had a chance to consider it and so far has rejected it so that's where it sits until something changes. At this point Subbies clubs are happy with the status quo.
The old boys at Subbies clubs are, I talk to quite a few younger lads and they're happy not to travel.
You clowns hijacked my topic!! If you provide competitive and even games of cricket in the lower grades, your young players will feel connected to your club and will then hopefully become 10 year plus players who move up through the grades and onto committees. Fingers crossed they have enthusiastic parents who can also contribute to the club
Not sure the CSB trolls agree with you Westland, they seem to think it is quite special.
I think you might find they are, but you would hope most of the present admin wouldn't have a role to play.Anything would have to be an improvement on what preceded it. IMO cricket in the North and West would be better served if CV were to take over running the VTCA comp. Did Hoppers Crossing et al reluctantly leave the VTCA? I think not.