Ballarat Cricket Association

[iamthehighway]

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why cant st pats be a finals ground to or are the school using it now? alot better than western and city put together for outfields.

 

[iamthehighway]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

why cant st pats be a finals ground to or are the school using it now? alot better than western and city put together for outfields.

 

[Bridgestone]

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Mounties are worried. They're asking the Pennant Commitee for Don not to umpire the GF, in light of what happened in the SF, and asked Naps for support! Not likely.

Hopefully Jeffery was cautioned - 2 cautions means an automatic 2-match suspension. Damn shame if that happens.

mounties would just like a fairly umpired game and dons hate of jeffrey would not ensure that, if you were at the game would know what im talking about. im not sure don is even in the best 2 umpires anymore, but as he is selector will pick himself

 

[Bridgestone]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Mounties are worried. They're asking the Pennant Commitee for Don not to umpire the GF, in light of what happened in the SF, and asked Naps for support! Not likely.

Hopefully Jeffery was cautioned - 2 cautions means an automatic 2-match suspension. Damn shame if that happens.

mounties would just like a fairly umpired game and dons hate of jeffrey would not ensure that, if you were at the game would know what im talking about. im not sure don is even in the best 2 umpires anymore, but as he is selector will pick himself

 

[M_Swards]

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why cant st pats be a finals ground to or are the school using it now? alot better than western and city put together for outfields.

2s grand final last year at st pats we rocked up to a wet wicket and the pitch marked a yard short at either end,

batting first on a wet wicket with two blue lines at either end to cover the first lines marked is fun. and yes no green paint to cover it, bright blue

 

[M_Swards]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

why cant st pats be a finals ground to or are the school using it now? alot better than western and city put together for outfields.

2s grand final last year at st pats we rocked up to a wet wicket and the pitch marked a yard short at either end,

batting first on a wet wicket with two blue lines at either end to cover the first lines marked is fun. and yes no green paint to cover it, bright blue

 

[E=mc2]

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BCA want council-prepared wickets to ensure impartialitity, regardless of whether the wickets are poor (Northern, Western) or if the grounds are dangerous dust-bowls (Western and City).

Think the policy will change next year when the Naps bore is flowing and the oval is a green oasis?

The western comes under both the categories of poor wicket and poor ground condition yet it is going to be seen as the second best ground in ballarat and hold the 2s grand final. The ground at naps is 100% better than the western but there wont be a chance in hell it will be held there and a better display of cricket shown. Playing there on the weekend i started to feel sorry for the guys in the lower grades who have to play on stuff like that ever week.

 

[E=mc2]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

BCA want council-prepared wickets to ensure impartialitity, regardless of whether the wickets are poor (Northern, Western) or if the grounds are dangerous dust-bowls (Western and City).

Think the policy will change next year when the Naps bore is flowing and the oval is a green oasis?

The western comes under both the categories of poor wicket and poor ground condition yet it is going to be seen as the second best ground in ballarat and hold the 2s grand final. The ground at naps is 100% better than the western but there wont be a chance in hell it will be held there and a better display of cricket shown. Playing there on the weekend i started to feel sorry for the guys in the lower grades who have to play on stuff like that ever week.

 

[SteveO]

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The western comes under both the categories of poor wicket and poor ground condition yet it is going to be seen as the second best ground in ballarat and hold the 2s grand final. The ground at naps is 100% better than the western but there wont be a chance in hell it will be held there and a better display of cricket shown. Playing there on the weekend i started to feel sorry for the guys in the lower grades who have to play on stuff like that ever week.

The deck has been beautiful at the Western this year.

 

[SteveO]

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The western comes under both the categories of poor wicket and poor ground condition yet it is going to be seen as the second best ground in ballarat and hold the 2s grand final. The ground at naps is 100% better than the western but there wont be a chance in hell it will be held there and a better display of cricket shown. Playing there on the weekend i started to feel sorry for the guys in the lower grades who have to play on stuff like that ever week.

The deck has been beautiful at the Western this year.

 

[on the couch]

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The deck has been beautiful at the Western this year.

Only good for 1 day. On the 2nd day (Sat/Sun game) a half-track thunderbolt from Sticka at 6'14" wouldn't reach a midget's navel!

 

[on the couch]

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The deck has been beautiful at the Western this year.

Only good for 1 day. On the 2nd day (Sat/Sun game) a half-track thunderbolt from Sticka at 6'14" wouldn't reach a midget's navel!

 

[SteveO]

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Only good for 1 day. On the 2nd day (Sat/Sun game) a half-track thunderbolt from Sticka at 6'14" wouldn't reach a midget's navel!

Wasn't it the 5th week of play on that deck? If so, that's not too good. Brown Hill blokes will tell you it has been very good all year.

 

[SteveO]

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Only good for 1 day. On the 2nd day (Sat/Sun game) a half-track thunderbolt from Sticka at 6'14" wouldn't reach a midget's navel!

Wasn't it the 5th week of play on that deck? If so, that's not too good. Brown Hill blokes will tell you it has been very good all year.

 

[Stix]

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Wasn't it the 5th week of play on that deck? If so, that's not too good. Brown Hill blokes will tell you it has been very good all year.

Yea agree with you there SteveO. We played on the ground later in the year and I thought it was an excellent wicket for everyone. Was even bounce and pace for the batters, and for the bowlers it carried through to the keeper and had a littel bit of pace in it which was a rare thing for later in the season ballarat wickets

 

[Stix]

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Wasn't it the 5th week of play on that deck? If so, that's not too good. Brown Hill blokes will tell you it has been very good all year.

Yea agree with you there SteveO. We played on the ground later in the year and I thought it was an excellent wicket for everyone. Was even bounce and pace for the batters, and for the bowlers it carried through to the keeper and had a littel bit of pace in it which was a rare thing for later in the season ballarat wickets

 

[SteveO]

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Yea agree with you there SteveO. We played on the ground later in the year and I thought it was an excellent wicket for everyone. Was even bounce and pace for the batters, and for the bowlers it carried through to the keeper and had a littel bit of pace in it which was a rare thing for later in the season ballarat wickets

Dave Greville has been leaving alot more grass on the Eastern deck since Xmas though and it has been superb. I know the semi last week was on a brand new deck there that will also be used for the Grand Final. How did it play? It has been nice and quick for us back foot hacks and plenty of pace and bounce for the bowlers. Not much in it for spinners though. Even though it will be a second week pitch with two days of play on it already I would bet the bank on it being a beauty for the big one.

 

[SteveO]

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Yea agree with you there SteveO. We played on the ground later in the year and I thought it was an excellent wicket for everyone. Was even bounce and pace for the batters, and for the bowlers it carried through to the keeper and had a littel bit of pace in it which was a rare thing for later in the season ballarat wickets

Dave Greville has been leaving alot more grass on the Eastern deck since Xmas though and it has been superb. I know the semi last week was on a brand new deck there that will also be used for the Grand Final. How did it play? It has been nice and quick for us back foot hacks and plenty of pace and bounce for the bowlers. Not much in it for spinners though. Even though it will be a second week pitch with two days of play on it already I would bet the bank on it being a beauty for the big one.

 

[E=mc2]

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The deck has been beautiful at the Western this year.

That may be but if there is to be a grand final there i would hate to be the team batting on the 4th day

 

[E=mc2]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

The deck has been beautiful at the Western this year.

That may be but if there is to be a grand final there i would hate to be the team batting on the 4th day

 

[Stix]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

What are people's thoughts on the Cleary Medal tommorrow night. Who is likely to finish top three?
Best poll getters from each club?
My Guesses for what it's worth:

Mounites: Fletcher, Young
Naps: Scott, Ringin A
Wendouree: Johnson, M. Skinner
Easties: Yates, Simpkin
Point: White, O'loughlin
Redan: Whinny, S. Allan (not sure who else)
Darley: Steenholdt, A.Blake, Parker
Coronet: Burns (unsure)
North: cations (Unsure)

 

[Stix]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

What are people's thoughts on the Cleary Medal tommorrow night. Who is likely to finish top three?
Best poll getters from each club?
My Guesses for what it's worth:

Mounites: Fletcher, Young
Naps: Scott, Ringin A
Wendouree: Johnson, M. Skinner
Easties: Yates, Simpkin
Point: White, O'loughlin
Redan: Whinny, S. Allan (not sure who else)
Darley: Steenholdt, A.Blake, Parker
Coronet: Burns (unsure)
North: cations (Unsure)

 

[SteveO]

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That may be but if there is to be a grand final there i would hate to be the team batting on the 4th day

You wouldn't like batting a yard out of your crease, plonking your front foot down the track and driving the poor bastards who have to bowl at you all day. Sounds alright to me!

 

[SteveO]

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That may be but if there is to be a grand final there i would hate to be the team batting on the 4th day

You wouldn't like batting a yard out of your crease, plonking your front foot down the track and driving the poor bastards who have to bowl at you all day. Sounds alright to me!

 

[SteveO]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

What are people's thoughts on the Cleary Medal tommorrow night. Who is likely to finish top three?
Best poll getters from each club?
My Guesses for what it's worth:

Mounites: Fletcher, Young
Naps: Scott, Ringin A
Wendouree: Johnson, M. Skinner
Easties: Yates, Simpkin
Point: White, O'loughlin
Redan: Whinny, S. Allan (not sure who else)
Darley: Steenholdt, A.Blake, Parker
Coronet: Burns (unsure)
North: cations (Unsure)

Johnson and White to tie from Burns and Steenholdt.

 

[SteveO]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

What are people's thoughts on the Cleary Medal tommorrow night. Who is likely to finish top three?
Best poll getters from each club?
My Guesses for what it's worth:

Mounites: Fletcher, Young
Naps: Scott, Ringin A
Wendouree: Johnson, M. Skinner
Easties: Yates, Simpkin
Point: White, O'loughlin
Redan: Whinny, S. Allan (not sure who else)
Darley: Steenholdt, A.Blake, Parker
Coronet: Burns (unsure)
North: cations (Unsure)

Johnson and White to tie from Burns and Steenholdt.

 

[napisan]

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Johnson and White to tie from Burns and Steenholdt.

E Johnson 12
J White 11
A Steenholdt 10
S O'loughlin 9
D Scott 9
B Burns 9
P Jeffrey 8

 

[napisan]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Johnson and White to tie from Burns and Steenholdt.

E Johnson 12
J White 11
A Steenholdt 10
S O'loughlin 9
D Scott 9
B Burns 9
P Jeffrey 8

 

[Rider]

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Out of curiosity in grand finals does the rule of a maximum of 80 overs per side in the 1st innings still apply? If so does anyone think that rule comes with a slight disadvantage to the team bowling 2nd? So if you're fortunate enough to have bowled a team out in say 65 overs, you then get 15 overs to bat that night but then have to come back and start again the following day and only get 65 to face. So the team batting 2nd effectively has to start their run chase twice. Being 20 odd not out would normally mean you have a bit of momentum and are kind of on your way when batting. But being 20 odd not out and then having to start all over again the next morning can sometimes be a bit tricky.

Just reckon that the team batting 2nd should have access to any overs that the team batting 1st didn't utilise. So in the above example they would get their 80 overs plus the 15 the team batting 1st didn't use. Also then that also gives them the chance to capitalise on their strong bowling effort.

So maybe the rule should be the 1st innings lasts for a combined amount of 160 overs but the maximum entitlement the side batting first has is 80 overs?

thoughts?

 

[Rider]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Out of curiosity in grand finals does the rule of a maximum of 80 overs per side in the 1st innings still apply? If so does anyone think that rule comes with a slight disadvantage to the team bowling 2nd? So if you're fortunate enough to have bowled a team out in say 65 overs, you then get 15 overs to bat that night but then have to come back and start again the following day and only get 65 to face. So the team batting 2nd effectively has to start their run chase twice. Being 20 odd not out would normally mean you have a bit of momentum and are kind of on your way when batting. But being 20 odd not out and then having to start all over again the next morning can sometimes be a bit tricky.

Just reckon that the team batting 2nd should have access to any overs that the team batting 1st didn't utilise. So in the above example they would get their 80 overs plus the 15 the team batting 1st didn't use. Also then that also gives them the chance to capitalise on their strong bowling effort.

So maybe the rule should be the 1st innings lasts for a combined amount of 160 overs but the maximum entitlement the side batting first has is 80 overs?

thoughts?

 

[napisan]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Out of curiosity in grand finals does the rule of a maximum of 80 overs per side in the 1st innings still apply? If so does anyone think that rule comes with a slight disadvantage to the team bowling 2nd? So if you're fortunate enough to have bowled a team out in say 65 overs, you then get 15 overs to bat that night but then have to come back and start again the following day and only get 65 to face. So the team batting 2nd effectively has to start their run chase twice. Being 20 odd not out would normally mean you have a bit of momentum and are kind of on your way when batting. But being 20 odd not out and then having to start all over again the next morning can sometimes be a bit tricky.

Just reckon that the team batting 2nd should have access to any overs that the team batting 1st didn't utilise. So in the above example they would get their 80 overs plus the 15 the team batting 1st didn't use. Also then that also gives them the chance to capitalise on their strong bowling effort.

So maybe the rule should be the 1st innings lasts for a combined amount of 160 overs but the maximum entitlement the side batting first has is 80 overs?

thoughts?

from BCA Website

THE SIDE BATTING FIRST IS NOT DISMISSED
The side batting first shall have its first innings compulsorily closed after eighty (80) overs. The side batting second (if not previously dismissed) shall be entitled to receive eighty (80) overs, whereupon their first innings shall end.

15.3.1 THE SIDE BATTING FIRST IS DISMISSED OR DECLARES
If the dismissal or declaration occurs prior to the side batting first completing its eighty (80) overs, then the side batting second (if not previously dismissed) is entitled to receive eighty (80) legitimate overs plus the number of whole overs not faced by the side batting first.
15.4 After the completion of both teams first innings the game continues with no division of batting time for both teams second innings. (Rule 15.2 applies for minimum number of overs per day).

15.5 If a decision has been reached at the conclusion of the third day’s play, or at any time on the final day, play may cease if both captains agree.

 

[napisan]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Out of curiosity in grand finals does the rule of a maximum of 80 overs per side in the 1st innings still apply? If so does anyone think that rule comes with a slight disadvantage to the team bowling 2nd? So if you're fortunate enough to have bowled a team out in say 65 overs, you then get 15 overs to bat that night but then have to come back and start again the following day and only get 65 to face. So the team batting 2nd effectively has to start their run chase twice. Being 20 odd not out would normally mean you have a bit of momentum and are kind of on your way when batting. But being 20 odd not out and then having to start all over again the next morning can sometimes be a bit tricky.

Just reckon that the team batting 2nd should have access to any overs that the team batting 1st didn't utilise. So in the above example they would get their 80 overs plus the 15 the team batting 1st didn't use. Also then that also gives them the chance to capitalise on their strong bowling effort.

So maybe the rule should be the 1st innings lasts for a combined amount of 160 overs but the maximum entitlement the side batting first has is 80 overs?

thoughts?

from BCA Website

THE SIDE BATTING FIRST IS NOT DISMISSED
The side batting first shall have its first innings compulsorily closed after eighty (80) overs. The side batting second (if not previously dismissed) shall be entitled to receive eighty (80) overs, whereupon their first innings shall end.

15.3.1 THE SIDE BATTING FIRST IS DISMISSED OR DECLARES
If the dismissal or declaration occurs prior to the side batting first completing its eighty (80) overs, then the side batting second (if not previously dismissed) is entitled to receive eighty (80) legitimate overs plus the number of whole overs not faced by the side batting first.
15.4 After the completion of both teams first innings the game continues with no division of batting time for both teams second innings. (Rule 15.2 applies for minimum number of overs per day).

15.5 If a decision has been reached at the conclusion of the third day’s play, or at any time on the final day, play may cease if both captains agree.

 

[SteveO]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Out of curiosity in grand finals does the rule of a maximum of 80 overs per side in the 1st innings still apply? If so does anyone think that rule comes with a slight disadvantage to the team bowling 2nd? So if you're fortunate enough to have bowled a team out in say 65 overs, you then get 15 overs to bat that night but then have to come back and start again the following day and only get 65 to face. So the team batting 2nd effectively has to start their run chase twice. Being 20 odd not out would normally mean you have a bit of momentum and are kind of on your way when batting. But being 20 odd not out and then having to start all over again the next morning can sometimes be a bit tricky.

Just reckon that the team batting 2nd should have access to any overs that the team batting 1st didn't utilise. So in the above example they would get their 80 overs plus the 15 the team batting 1st didn't use. Also then that also gives them the chance to capitalise on their strong bowling effort.

So maybe the rule should be the 1st innings lasts for a combined amount of 160 overs but the maximum entitlement the side batting first has is 80 overs?

thoughts?

Isn't it 100 overs first innings max. and unlimited in second dig for a Grand Final.

 

[SteveO]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Out of curiosity in grand finals does the rule of a maximum of 80 overs per side in the 1st innings still apply? If so does anyone think that rule comes with a slight disadvantage to the team bowling 2nd? So if you're fortunate enough to have bowled a team out in say 65 overs, you then get 15 overs to bat that night but then have to come back and start again the following day and only get 65 to face. So the team batting 2nd effectively has to start their run chase twice. Being 20 odd not out would normally mean you have a bit of momentum and are kind of on your way when batting. But being 20 odd not out and then having to start all over again the next morning can sometimes be a bit tricky.

Just reckon that the team batting 2nd should have access to any overs that the team batting 1st didn't utilise. So in the above example they would get their 80 overs plus the 15 the team batting 1st didn't use. Also then that also gives them the chance to capitalise on their strong bowling effort.

So maybe the rule should be the 1st innings lasts for a combined amount of 160 overs but the maximum entitlement the side batting first has is 80 overs?

thoughts?

Isn't it 100 overs first innings max. and unlimited in second dig for a Grand Final.

 

[sharma mullet]

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Isn't it 100 overs first innings max. and unlimited in second dig for a Grand Final.

I was under the impression it was 110 overs max. I will stand corrected on this but

 

[sharma mullet]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Isn't it 100 overs first innings max. and unlimited in second dig for a Grand Final.

I was under the impression it was 110 overs max. I will stand corrected on this but

 

[cobber14]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

I was under the impression it was 110 overs max. I will stand corrected on this but

definately back to 80 overs each in 1st innings, but unlimited in 2nd innings. previously has been side batting 2nd never got the remaining overs if the 1st side was bowled out, but that has changed now

 

[cobber14]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

I was under the impression it was 110 overs max. I will stand corrected on this but

definately back to 80 overs each in 1st innings, but unlimited in 2nd innings. previously has been side batting 2nd never got the remaining overs if the 1st side was bowled out, but that has changed now

 

[Rider]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

from BCA Website

THE SIDE BATTING FIRST IS NOT DISMISSED
The side batting first shall have its first innings compulsorily closed after eighty (80) overs. The side batting second (if not previously dismissed) shall be entitled to receive eighty (80) overs, whereupon their first innings shall end.

15.3.1 THE SIDE BATTING FIRST IS DISMISSED OR DECLARES
If the dismissal or declaration occurs prior to the side batting first completing its eighty (80) overs, then the side batting second (if not previously dismissed) is entitled to receive eighty (80) legitimate overs plus the number of whole overs not faced by the side batting first.
15.4 After the completion of both teams first innings the game continues with no division of batting time for both teams second innings. (Rule 15.2 applies for minimum number of overs per day).

15.5 If a decision has been reached at the conclusion of the third day’s play, or at any time on the final day, play may cease if both captains agree.

nice work Napisan thanks for that

 

[Rider]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

from BCA Website

THE SIDE BATTING FIRST IS NOT DISMISSED
The side batting first shall have its first innings compulsorily closed after eighty (80) overs. The side batting second (if not previously dismissed) shall be entitled to receive eighty (80) overs, whereupon their first innings shall end.

15.3.1 THE SIDE BATTING FIRST IS DISMISSED OR DECLARES
If the dismissal or declaration occurs prior to the side batting first completing its eighty (80) overs, then the side batting second (if not previously dismissed) is entitled to receive eighty (80) legitimate overs plus the number of whole overs not faced by the side batting first.
15.4 After the completion of both teams first innings the game continues with no division of batting time for both teams second innings. (Rule 15.2 applies for minimum number of overs per day).

15.5 If a decision has been reached at the conclusion of the third day’s play, or at any time on the final day, play may cease if both captains agree.

nice work Napisan thanks for that