Ballarat Cricket Association

[SteveB]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

The point i was bringing up when i first raised the 'ground' issue was that certain grounds, and we all know which ones, are simply not suitable for first grade cricket in ballarat. FOR THE BETTERMENT of first grade cricket in ballarat i felt it was important, for the reasons i stated, to have all first grade matches take precedence over other grade matches on the best grounds available. I asked for all club loyalties to be put aside for a moment to think of the benefits of having first grade cricket played on the BEST grounds in ballarat. All we have now is a group chest thumping about their own clubs facilities and how great it is that THEIR club has them..... Look beyond the crap and give me a response to the BETTERMENT of first grade cricket in ballarat. Its very apparent that grounds such as east high are unsuitable for first grade cricket.... What are the other options to ensure the highest standard of cricket in the town is represented as such by being played at the best possible locations....

Steggles,

There are currently a number of Ballarat's better grounds that are not satisfactory for cricket of any type let alone 1st XI cricket, however due to the drought there is not much that can be done. We are in fact fortunate to still have turf cricket being played, without the installation of tanks and carting water you guys would all be playing on hard wickets in Ballarat, with the exception being Naps which I think uses bore water.

At the moment the Eastern is probably the only turf ground in town that has full grass cover, and it is very poor condition compared to previous years. The City, Western, Wendouree etc. outfields are dreadful and bordering on being sand pits or dust bowls. This cannot be avoided, unless you know how to make it rain? All Ballarat turf wicket grounds under normal or should I say historical rain falls are not an issue and are well and truly suited to 1st XI cricket.

When or if the drought ever breaks the grounds will return to being of the standard that everyone expects. However until then I would suggest that you need to remember that we are in the middle of a 10 year drought. The answer to the dilemma is either pray for rain - if you are that way inclined, or to develop a plan to improve all grounds surfaces. By using such means as planting drought resistant grass, getting water tanks and using recycled water. All this requires serious dosh, so start filling in grant applications now. A quick reshuffle of who plays where will not solve the issue.

In my humble opinion the standard of cricket will not suffer due to the condition of the surfaces that are played on. If that in fact was the case then no cricketer of note would ever appear out of the Subcontinent where they grow up playing in dustbowls on substandard surfaces, and yes you could argue no cricketer of note has ever come out of the subcontinent...

My two bobs worth.

 

[SteveB]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

The point i was bringing up when i first raised the 'ground' issue was that certain grounds, and we all know which ones, are simply not suitable for first grade cricket in ballarat. FOR THE BETTERMENT of first grade cricket in ballarat i felt it was important, for the reasons i stated, to have all first grade matches take precedence over other grade matches on the best grounds available. I asked for all club loyalties to be put aside for a moment to think of the benefits of having first grade cricket played on the BEST grounds in ballarat. All we have now is a group chest thumping about their own clubs facilities and how great it is that THEIR club has them..... Look beyond the crap and give me a response to the BETTERMENT of first grade cricket in ballarat. Its very apparent that grounds such as east high are unsuitable for first grade cricket.... What are the other options to ensure the highest standard of cricket in the town is represented as such by being played at the best possible locations....

Steggles,

There are currently a number of Ballarat's better grounds that are not satisfactory for cricket of any type let alone 1st XI cricket, however due to the drought there is not much that can be done. We are in fact fortunate to still have turf cricket being played, without the installation of tanks and carting water you guys would all be playing on hard wickets in Ballarat, with the exception being Naps which I think uses bore water.

At the moment the Eastern is probably the only turf ground in town that has full grass cover, and it is very poor condition compared to previous years. The City, Western, Wendouree etc. outfields are dreadful and bordering on being sand pits or dust bowls. This cannot be avoided, unless you know how to make it rain? All Ballarat turf wicket grounds under normal or should I say historical rain falls are not an issue and are well and truly suited to 1st XI cricket.

When or if the drought ever breaks the grounds will return to being of the standard that everyone expects. However until then I would suggest that you need to remember that we are in the middle of a 10 year drought. The answer to the dilemma is either pray for rain - if you are that way inclined, or to develop a plan to improve all grounds surfaces. By using such means as planting drought resistant grass, getting water tanks and using recycled water. All this requires serious dosh, so start filling in grant applications now. A quick reshuffle of who plays where will not solve the issue.

In my humble opinion the standard of cricket will not suffer due to the condition of the surfaces that are played on. If that in fact was the case then no cricketer of note would ever appear out of the Subcontinent where they grow up playing in dustbowls on substandard surfaces, and yes you could argue no cricketer of note has ever come out of the subcontinent...

My two bobs worth.

 

[The Lionshow]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Steggles,

There are currently a number of Ballarat's better grounds that are not satisfactory for cricket of any type let alone 1st XI cricket, however due to the drought there is not much that can be done. We are in fact fortunate to still have turf cricket being played, without the installation of tanks and carting water you guys would all be playing on hard wickets in Ballarat, with the exception being Naps which I think uses bore water.

At the moment the Eastern is probably the only turf ground in town that has full grass cover, and it is very poor condition compared to previous years. The City, Western, Wendouree etc. outfields are dreadful and bordering on being sand pits or dust bowls. This cannot be avoided, unless you know how to make it rain? All Ballarat turf wicket grounds under normal or should I say historical rain falls are not an issue and are well and truly suited to 1st XI cricket.

When or if the drought ever breaks the grounds will return to being of the standard that everyone expects. However until then I would suggest that you need to remember that we are in the middle of a 10 year drought. The answer to the dilemma is either pray for rain - if you are that way inclined, or to develop a plan to improve all grounds surfaces. By using such means as planting drought resistant grass, getting water tanks and using recycled water. All this requires serious dosh, so start filling in grant applications now. A quick reshuffle of who plays where will not solve the issue.

In my humble opinion the standard of cricket will not suffer due to the condition of the surfaces that are played on. If that in fact was the case then no cricketer of note would ever appear out of the Subcontinent where they grow up playing in dustbowls on substandard surfaces, and yes you could argue no cricketer of note has ever come out of the subcontinent...

My two bobs worth.

At las someone with some common sense. Couldnt agree more!!!

Steggles - Get over what you ground you play on and just play the great game of cricket. If you want to play on nice grounds play premier league cricket and even some of those are in ordinary shape. Or go to england where it rains every 3rd day.

To many sooks on this forum.

 

[The Lionshow]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Steggles,

There are currently a number of Ballarat's better grounds that are not satisfactory for cricket of any type let alone 1st XI cricket, however due to the drought there is not much that can be done. We are in fact fortunate to still have turf cricket being played, without the installation of tanks and carting water you guys would all be playing on hard wickets in Ballarat, with the exception being Naps which I think uses bore water.

At the moment the Eastern is probably the only turf ground in town that has full grass cover, and it is very poor condition compared to previous years. The City, Western, Wendouree etc. outfields are dreadful and bordering on being sand pits or dust bowls. This cannot be avoided, unless you know how to make it rain? All Ballarat turf wicket grounds under normal or should I say historical rain falls are not an issue and are well and truly suited to 1st XI cricket.

When or if the drought ever breaks the grounds will return to being of the standard that everyone expects. However until then I would suggest that you need to remember that we are in the middle of a 10 year drought. The answer to the dilemma is either pray for rain - if you are that way inclined, or to develop a plan to improve all grounds surfaces. By using such means as planting drought resistant grass, getting water tanks and using recycled water. All this requires serious dosh, so start filling in grant applications now. A quick reshuffle of who plays where will not solve the issue.

In my humble opinion the standard of cricket will not suffer due to the condition of the surfaces that are played on. If that in fact was the case then no cricketer of note would ever appear out of the Subcontinent where they grow up playing in dustbowls on substandard surfaces, and yes you could argue no cricketer of note has ever come out of the subcontinent...

My two bobs worth.

At las someone with some common sense. Couldnt agree more!!!

Steggles - Get over what you ground you play on and just play the great game of cricket. If you want to play on nice grounds play premier league cricket and even some of those are in ordinary shape. Or go to england where it rains every 3rd day.

To many sooks on this forum.

 

[Stix]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

The point i was bringing up when i first raised the 'ground' issue was that certain grounds, and we all know which ones, are simply not suitable for first grade cricket in ballarat. FOR THE BETTERMENT of first grade cricket in ballarat i felt it was important, for the reasons i stated, to have all first grade matches take precedence over other grade matches on the best grounds available. I asked for all club loyalties to be put aside for a moment to think of the benefits of having first grade cricket played on the BEST grounds in ballarat. All we have now is a group chest thumping about their own clubs facilities and how great it is that THEIR club has them..... Look beyond the crap and give me a response to the BETTERMENT of first grade cricket in ballarat. Its very apparent that grounds such as east high are unsuitable for first grade cricket.... What are the other options to ensure the highest standard of cricket in the town is represented as such by being played at the best possible locations....

Don't worry about East High, try the beach / dust bowl / Sahara Desert / Australia outback infield AND outfield at Wendouree. It hasn't rained since the war!!! Lets be thankful we get to play on turf each week as some other comps don't. I rather play in dirt every week than play on hard wickets. Couldn't care where i play as long as their is a strip of turf

 

[Stix]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

The point i was bringing up when i first raised the 'ground' issue was that certain grounds, and we all know which ones, are simply not suitable for first grade cricket in ballarat. FOR THE BETTERMENT of first grade cricket in ballarat i felt it was important, for the reasons i stated, to have all first grade matches take precedence over other grade matches on the best grounds available. I asked for all club loyalties to be put aside for a moment to think of the benefits of having first grade cricket played on the BEST grounds in ballarat. All we have now is a group chest thumping about their own clubs facilities and how great it is that THEIR club has them..... Look beyond the crap and give me a response to the BETTERMENT of first grade cricket in ballarat. Its very apparent that grounds such as east high are unsuitable for first grade cricket.... What are the other options to ensure the highest standard of cricket in the town is represented as such by being played at the best possible locations....

Don't worry about East High, try the beach / dust bowl / Sahara Desert / Australia outback infield AND outfield at Wendouree. It hasn't rained since the war!!! Lets be thankful we get to play on turf each week as some other comps don't. I rather play in dirt every week than play on hard wickets. Couldn't care where i play as long as their is a strip of turf

 

[Rider]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

The point i was bringing up when i first raised the 'ground' issue was that certain grounds, and we all know which ones, are simply not suitable for first grade cricket in ballarat. FOR THE BETTERMENT of first grade cricket in ballarat i felt it was important, for the reasons i stated, to have all first grade matches take precedence over other grade matches on the best grounds available. I asked for all club loyalties to be put aside for a moment to think of the benefits of having first grade cricket played on the BEST grounds in ballarat. All we have now is a group chest thumping about their own clubs facilities and how great it is that THEIR club has them..... Look beyond the crap and give me a response to the BETTERMENT of first grade cricket in ballarat. Its very apparent that grounds such as east high are unsuitable for first grade cricket.... What are the other options to ensure the highest standard of cricket in the town is represented as such by being played at the best possible locations....

i'm all for the improvement of A grade cricket in Ballarat cobber but don't think that means I'm gonna just give a free leg up to opposition clubs. After all the time, money, effort, money, labour, money, work and money Naps has put in over the last 10 years out there on our facilities I'd have our u/16's play there before two opposition clubs play there. I think you're an East man so I look forward to having this conversation with you again in a few years time when all the works are completed at Russel Square and after all the time and energy and money you've pumped into it you'll be hapy to just step aside and let non East Ballarat sides play there rather then allow your
2nds players to gain invaluable experience on turf.

 

[Rider]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

The point i was bringing up when i first raised the 'ground' issue was that certain grounds, and we all know which ones, are simply not suitable for first grade cricket in ballarat. FOR THE BETTERMENT of first grade cricket in ballarat i felt it was important, for the reasons i stated, to have all first grade matches take precedence over other grade matches on the best grounds available. I asked for all club loyalties to be put aside for a moment to think of the benefits of having first grade cricket played on the BEST grounds in ballarat. All we have now is a group chest thumping about their own clubs facilities and how great it is that THEIR club has them..... Look beyond the crap and give me a response to the BETTERMENT of first grade cricket in ballarat. Its very apparent that grounds such as east high are unsuitable for first grade cricket.... What are the other options to ensure the highest standard of cricket in the town is represented as such by being played at the best possible locations....

i'm all for the improvement of A grade cricket in Ballarat cobber but don't think that means I'm gonna just give a free leg up to opposition clubs. After all the time, money, effort, money, labour, money, work and money Naps has put in over the last 10 years out there on our facilities I'd have our u/16's play there before two opposition clubs play there. I think you're an East man so I look forward to having this conversation with you again in a few years time when all the works are completed at Russel Square and after all the time and energy and money you've pumped into it you'll be hapy to just step aside and let non East Ballarat sides play there rather then allow your
2nds players to gain invaluable experience on turf.

 

[SteveO]

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In the last year or two a massive water tank has been installed out here at Mount Clear College to water the ground. A great deal of underground irrigation and drainage has been installed too.

Wouldn't it be a sensible and obvious decision if Mount Clear could work with the school and the council to get the main ground out here (I work at the school) top dressed, sown, watered and the carpet deck ripped up and a wicket table put down a la Napoleons.

They would then have as good or better facilities than any other club. Two grounds with their social and change rooms in the middle, nets and water.

The school kids would still need to use the ground for a kick of the footy but they also would have the second ground to use at recess and lunch and in PE.

Hang on.....what the hell am I doing solving Mount Clear's dogs-balls obvious problems with dogs-balls obvious solutions?

 

[SteveO]

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In the last year or two a massive water tank has been installed out here at Mount Clear College to water the ground. A great deal of underground irrigation and drainage has been installed too.

Wouldn't it be a sensible and obvious decision if Mount Clear could work with the school and the council to get the main ground out here (I work at the school) top dressed, sown, watered and the carpet deck ripped up and a wicket table put down a la Napoleons.

They would then have as good or better facilities than any other club. Two grounds with their social and change rooms in the middle, nets and water.

The school kids would still need to use the ground for a kick of the footy but they also would have the second ground to use at recess and lunch and in PE.

Hang on.....what the hell am I doing solving Mount Clear's dogs-balls obvious problems with dogs-balls obvious solutions?

 

[shakes_7]

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Congratulations to the Country Week boys for making it into the final today (despite what Win TV said last night).

Last heard our boys were batting against Geelong and we were 1/105 after 25 overs.

Should be looking at 250+ and then a big chance to win it with Pete Moore and Brendan Thompson bowling well over the last few days

 

[shakes_7]

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Congratulations to the Country Week boys for making it into the final today (despite what Win TV said last night).

Last heard our boys were batting against Geelong and we were 1/105 after 25 overs.

Should be looking at 250+ and then a big chance to win it with Pete Moore and Brendan Thompson bowling well over the last few days

 

[Sleeper]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Congratulations to the Country Week boys for making it into the final today (despite what Win TV said last night).

Last heard our boys were batting against Geelong and we were 1/105 after 25 overs.

Should be looking at 250+ and then a big chance to win it with Pete Moore and Brendan Thompson bowling well over the last few days

Now isnt that a set up for a great game on the weekend!!! Naps v point...which one isnt going to be completely rooted on sat?!

 

[Sleeper]

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Congratulations to the Country Week boys for making it into the final today (despite what Win TV said last night).

Last heard our boys were batting against Geelong and we were 1/105 after 25 overs.

Should be looking at 250+ and then a big chance to win it with Pete Moore and Brendan Thompson bowling well over the last few days

Now isnt that a set up for a great game on the weekend!!! Naps v point...which one isnt going to be completely rooted on sat?!

 

[napisan]

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Now isnt that a set up for a great game on the weekend!!! Naps v point...which one isnt going to be completely rooted on sat?!

yeah scores originally posted on the net without 2nd innings results had Bendigo in 2nd and Ballarat 3rd

Thommo didn't play all week so you'd think moore will be more rooted but it all depends who pulls up better after tonights celebrations/commisserations that could be the key.

 

[napisan]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Now isnt that a set up for a great game on the weekend!!! Naps v point...which one isnt going to be completely rooted on sat?!

yeah scores originally posted on the net without 2nd innings results had Bendigo in 2nd and Ballarat 3rd

Thommo didn't play all week so you'd think moore will be more rooted but it all depends who pulls up better after tonights celebrations/commisserations that could be the key.

 

[SteveO]

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Congratulations to the Country Week boys for making it into the final today (despite what Win TV said last night).

Last heard our boys were batting against Geelong and we were 1/105 after 25 overs.

Should be looking at 250+ and then a big chance to win it with Pete Moore and Brendan Thompson bowling well over the last few days

Don Jacobsson tells me that Geelong are 4 - 128 after 28 overs. Ballarat not batting.

 

[SteveO]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Congratulations to the Country Week boys for making it into the final today (despite what Win TV said last night).

Last heard our boys were batting against Geelong and we were 1/105 after 25 overs.

Should be looking at 250+ and then a big chance to win it with Pete Moore and Brendan Thompson bowling well over the last few days

Don Jacobsson tells me that Geelong are 4 - 128 after 28 overs. Ballarat not batting.

 

[SteveO]

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Don Jacobsson tells me that Geelong are 4 - 128 after 28 overs. Ballarat not batting.

Daryl Collins tells me Geelong made 197 and Ballarat bowled well.

 

[SteveO]

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Don Jacobsson tells me that Geelong are 4 - 128 after 28 overs. Ballarat not batting.

Daryl Collins tells me Geelong made 197 and Ballarat bowled well.

 

[shakes_7]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

SteveO is right, the message i got from the ground didn't say who was batting, i just assumed it was us.

last update 7 for 159 off 45, very similar to yesterday

 

[shakes_7]

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SteveO is right, the message i got from the ground didn't say who was batting, i just assumed it was us.

last update 7 for 159 off 45, very similar to yesterday

 

[The Lionshow]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

SteveO is right, the message i got from the ground didn't say who was batting, i just assumed it was us.

last update 7 for 159 off 45, very similar to yesterday

Ballarat were in big ********e as he opening bowlers went for plenty and Geelong were 0 for 100. Knowles and irv then put the skids on and Geelong lost 4 or 5 for 50. Decent track at the albert but obviously a wicket they have recycled.

Should get the runs with pyke and miller due for some. Runs on the board though.

If the boys win i would say all players would be rat ********e for tomorrow.

 

[The Lionshow]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

SteveO is right, the message i got from the ground didn't say who was batting, i just assumed it was us.

last update 7 for 159 off 45, very similar to yesterday

Ballarat were in big ********e as he opening bowlers went for plenty and Geelong were 0 for 100. Knowles and irv then put the skids on and Geelong lost 4 or 5 for 50. Decent track at the albert but obviously a wicket they have recycled.

Should get the runs with pyke and miller due for some. Runs on the board though.

If the boys win i would say all players would be rat ********e for tomorrow.

 

[shakes_7]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Ballarat were in big ********e as he opening bowlers went for plenty and Geelong were 0 for 100. Knowles and irv then put the skids on and Geelong lost 4 or 5 for 50. Decent track at the albert but obviously a wicket they have recycled.

Should get the runs with pyke and miller due for some. Runs on the board though.

If the boys win i would say all players would be rat ********e for tomorrow.

1/104 off 17 for the boys. i am not sure who has the runs but things look positive

 

[shakes_7]

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Ballarat were in big ********e as he opening bowlers went for plenty and Geelong were 0 for 100. Knowles and irv then put the skids on and Geelong lost 4 or 5 for 50. Decent track at the albert but obviously a wicket they have recycled.

Should get the runs with pyke and miller due for some. Runs on the board though.

If the boys win i would say all players would be rat ********e for tomorrow.

1/104 off 17 for the boys. i am not sure who has the runs but things look positive

 

[SteveO]

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1/104 off 17 for the boys. i am not sure who has the runs but things look positive

1 for 134 off 24 overs.

 

[SteveO]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

1/104 off 17 for the boys. i am not sure who has the runs but things look positive

1 for 134 off 24 overs.

 

[shakes_7]

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1 for 134 off 24 overs.

Victory, the boys have won it for the first time in 26 years.

passed the required 197 with 2 down and 14 overs to remain.

Fantastic effort

Pete Moore apparently bowled 5 overs but left the field with a knee problem,
might be interesting if he can't get up for tomorrow

 

[shakes_7]

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1 for 134 off 24 overs.

Victory, the boys have won it for the first time in 26 years.

passed the required 197 with 2 down and 14 overs to remain.

Fantastic effort

Pete Moore apparently bowled 5 overs but left the field with a knee problem,
might be interesting if he can't get up for tomorrow

 

[flyslip]

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Congratulations to all the boys, particularly Miller, 96 in a final against an opponent like that is a magnificent effort.

 

[flyslip]

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Congratulations to all the boys, particularly Miller, 96 in a final against an opponent like that is a magnificent effort.

 

[schwab2clarkson]

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Ballarat got Geelong by the balls in yesterdays final. @|

 

[schwab2clarkson]

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Ballarat got Geelong by the balls in yesterdays final. @|

 

[Sleeper]

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Ballarat got Geelong by the balls in yesterdays final. @|

How the other games lookin boys?

Naps bowled point out for 160 (should've been a lot less except last wicket put on 50) and are 1/30 in reply...white and appleton 30's and thommo and danny carrol took 3 each. carrol took a hatrick.

 

[Sleeper]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

Ballarat got Geelong by the balls in yesterdays final. @|

How the other games lookin boys?

Naps bowled point out for 160 (should've been a lot less except last wicket put on 50) and are 1/30 in reply...white and appleton 30's and thommo and danny carrol took 3 each. carrol took a hatrick.

 

[jimmy]

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How the other games lookin boys?

Naps bowled point out for 160 (should've been a lot less except last wicket put on 50) and are 1/30 in reply...white and appleton 30's and thommo and danny carrol took 3 each. carrol took a hatrick.

Mt Clear vs Ballarat/Redan

10 - 241 --- Allister Edmends 48, Shane Skontra 43, Paul Aikman 35, Matt Hoey 34, Greg Wakeling 32

 

[jimmy]

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How the other games lookin boys?

Naps bowled point out for 160 (should've been a lot less except last wicket put on 50) and are 1/30 in reply...white and appleton 30's and thommo and danny carrol took 3 each. carrol took a hatrick.

Mt Clear vs Ballarat/Redan

10 - 241 --- Allister Edmends 48, Shane Skontra 43, Paul Aikman 35, Matt Hoey 34, Greg Wakeling 32

 

[thickedge]

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I see in the courier today wendouree made a fairly sizable score against the darley lions. 5-340 with skinner getting 93 and pyke 119, looks as those two have hit some form of late and running into the finals. Maybe the target heads may be starting to tune up just at the right time of the year...any thoughts????

 

[thickedge]

Re: Ballarat Cricket Association

I see in the courier today wendouree made a fairly sizable score against the darley lions. 5-340 with skinner getting 93 and pyke 119, looks as those two have hit some form of late and running into the finals. Maybe the target heads may be starting to tune up just at the right time of the year...any thoughts????