CMCA- Ommies to remain in top grade

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FrequentFourFlayer;269332 said:
uncle mick dont try and steer the conversation towards woolnough just so we can start talking about u.. not interested. better get used to the lack of attention or else it will be back to easts next yr

But talking about me is my favourite topic..... you should see the posters I have of me on my bedroom wall.

As flattered as I am you're not willing to talk about me, I'm trying to spark up a bit of interest from the Woolnough crowd to get a gauge on where the respective sides are at. Rumours of a couple of key departures from last year's Grand Finalists. Any other news of notice?
 
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Plenty of new faces in ANA's Woolnough side this season. Massive emphasis on bringing up the kids... could see some short term pain, but worth the investment.
 
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Its been a long wait, but bring on the cricket season.
Interesting to see the rain predicted for the first round, may have to get the coloured clothing out for next week, the usual one day game.

Great to see so many ex CMCA players and some interesting officials starting in tomorrows District Cricket, its probably a record number.

Brad Hodge, Nick Jewell, Glen Lalor, Ryan Heywood, Rob Quiney, Rowan Schreirer, Jason McConville, Steven Singh, Jarrod Lyons, Glen Beckett, Nathen Plumbridge.

Adrian Fisher, Chris Wighton, Matt Nimmervoll.

Good luck to the 3 umps, pity they have been lost to the CMCA, but its good to see them progress to higher cricket.
 
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Archie Roach;269449 said:
Its been a long wait, but bring on the cricket season.
Interesting to see the rain predicted for the first round, may have to get the coloured clothing out for next week, the usual one day game.

Great to see so many ex CMCA players and some interesting officials starting in tomorrows District Cricket, its probably a record number.

Brad Hodge, Nick Jewell, Glen Lalor, Ryan Heywood, Rob Quiney, Rowan Schreirer, Jason McConville, Steven Singh, Jarrod Lyons, Glen Beckett, Nathen Plumbridge.

Adrian Fisher, Chris Wighton, Matt Nimmervoll.

Good luck to the 3 umps, pity they have been lost to the CMCA, but its good to see them progress to higher cricket.

As a neutral observer (Season Edi Asp ticket holder) I have heard of the first 5 who are clearly settled First XI players. Good luck to them. The rest of them can compete with Rhys' for the opening spot in the twos.

That is all.
 
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I'm with ya Mick.. lets talk Woolnough!

Tough day for BDCC... 3/83 at tea to all out 126... Wests did what they do, put the ball in the right spot & we were not good enough to stay patient.. West's ground fielding was top class & they spread the wickets ..

How did other games go?

Mick your observation of BDCC's challenges of mixing high level turf & CMCA a couple of months ago were interseting. It's a lot of fun changes surfaces, turf is great but synth a more even test(plus u play more games).. worst thing about VTCA is bonus points.. it makes teams play out the overs well after the game is decided. i dunno about u but I thought u play to win then get off unless a milestone is close!
 
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To Bonus points,

does the team that has lost recieve any points if they restrict the winning team after the game has been decided, because what it will do is seperate the top sides form the sides in the middle of the table.
Because against the bottom sides the top sides are more likely to pick up bonus points then say a 6th place team v a bottom team.
But i reckon it probably does not matter because a season full of two day matches with 2 one dayers in the middle can never be a level playing field.
Nothing worse when a bottom side has no depth has one bloke fire win a game against a top side.
Thats why Bangladesh beat the Aussies in a one dayer, you will never see them do it in a Test match not in the the next 10 years anyway
 
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Archie Roach;269449 said:
Its been a long wait, but bring on the cricket season.
Interesting to see the rain predicted for the first round, may have to get the coloured clothing out for next week, the usual one day game.

Great to see so many ex CMCA players and some interesting officials starting in tomorrows District Cricket, its probably a record number.

Brad Hodge, Nick Jewell, Glen Lalor, Ryan Heywood, Rob Quiney, Rowan Schreirer, Jason McConville, Steven Singh, Jarrod Lyons, Glen Beckett, Nathen Plumbridge.

Adrian Fisher, Chris Wighton, Matt Nimmervoll.

Good luck to the 3 umps, pity they have been lost to the CMCA, but its good to see them progress to higher cricket.
Just a another one to add to this list, and keep an eye on in the future,... Adam Mathieson from the Wash Ups, the left arm 16 year old opening bowler from 2 years ago, is in the Vic U/19 squad with another season to go and starting in the 2s at St Kilda. Wish him and Chris Williamson (Prahran) all the best also...
 
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ANA @ Home in Longmuir v BUCC finished all out for 330.
Top effort from new blokes to the club Matt Merrifield with 60ish, Campbell 58, Brad Dolman chimed in with 50 of his own. and Joel Gebert with a well made 45 before he was burnt. Strange choice by I VAN to send the home team in after winning the toss. Great score, just gotta wait to see if this Union batting line is writing its own press or its the real deal, should make for an interesting saturday.

ANA VS BUCC at Hurly in Woolnough finished at 9/173.
Good effort for the As while fielding 6 debutants.
J.Fergus 37 top scored. But was good to see B.Lawford, J.Morrison, and Bryce Jansz look at home in wooly. However we were lucky with Union dropping at least 6 catches. Cant field like that in the bigger grades.
Next week we have to get Vaughn and Goro out early to put the pressure on.
 
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thSerious th6 thSmasher;269101 said:
With your recent form in the line-up i reckon you'd get 250!
As for Martyn, i wouldn't expect to see him before Christmas if at all. Most likely requires surgery which will be keeping him out for a while.
Look out for big years from a couple of other youngsters in Corp and Devereaux though. Corp's been at all pre-season training after a year o.s. and is my early tip for the comp batting average. And after Devereaux misses Round 1 due to a footy trip we'll be looking for him to go on with his starts that he had consistantly last year. Was never in trouble last year, he just managed to get himself out all the time.

looks like you have done your reseach super6 corp made 95 against uniting yesterday out of sandys 250. uniting have no hope nxt week i wouldnt think.

ana dominated unions poor bowling attack with 330..they have never had any decent bowlers and will struggle this year. hampton central have have always been battlers with the bat and made 140. only hope is if may comes out and bores wests with 36 overs of slow crap.

carnegie and omega both look like they are trying to lose which is y they both usually mange to do so. le page only got 222 due to the u/14 sh!t that elwood were serving up.

and as for wash ups and mackie.. who cares! neither will be there when it counts
 
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agree with earlier sentiments that krotofil struggles.

on another note had a beer with phelan from sandy yesterday who had a bit to say from us whilst departing the wicket yesteday.. shocking guy who drinks lights and spits in your face when he talks to you.. we want the news not the weather mate!! all he wanted to talk about was how stiff he was in the middle. next time just walk off the ground without putting your 2 cents in thanks!

easts didnt impress us that much and it was a scrappy affair. we might not get the runs but id be pretty confident there are better batting sides in the comp
 
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Trying to get a rise out of someone on here....? "Biggie" Phelan is a champ. Good bloke who loves his cricket and obviously felt hard done by on the weekend. You'd be foolish to suggest anything more after one incident. As for Buddha, his record speaks for itself. Hardly consider him someone that struggles.

The good old Kookas were back to their best on Saturday. I think we dropped 6-7 catches. One of those catches cost us another 80 runs. A couple of fortunate lbw decisions went their way - no issue if there's consistency in the decisions this week. Some good clean hitting in the closing overs from Aspendale. Big ask to mow down 297 this week, but we'll give it a crack.

Anyone know what happened in the Hampton United v Southside game?
 
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brett;269709 said:
To Bonus points,

does the team that has lost recieve any points if they restrict the winning team after the game has been decided, because what it will do is seperate the top sides form the sides in the middle of the table.
Because against the bottom sides the top sides are more likely to pick up bonus points then say a 6th place team v a bottom team.
But i reckon it probably does not matter because a season full of two day matches with 2 one dayers in the middle can never be a level playing field.
Nothing worse when a bottom side has no depth has one bloke fire win a game against a top side.
Thats why Bangladesh beat the Aussies in a one dayer, you will never see them do it in a Test match not in the the next 10 years anyway

Brett,

VTCA bonus system works like this:

6pts for a win
0.2 for every wicket
0.01 for every run (150 -1.5 pts)

So if team A makes 7/265 & 8/120 & team B 10/150, points would be as follows:

Team A: 11.85pts
Team B: 4.50pts

So if team B that has been smashed in the 1st Inn comes out & takes a few wickets due to slogging, then they get points.

It's rubbish if you ask me, i'd prefer the CMCA once you win it's over method.

Great effort by Carl "Dean Waugh" Reid taking 6-for for West Bent on the weekend too!
 
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I'm at a loss with that explanation. My assumption would be you meant .01 for a run therefore the 385 runs made would equate to 3.85 points. Plus 2 points for claiming 10 wickets and another 6 points for the win. All up should be 11.85 points to Team A? Or do they not accumulate points in their 2nd innings? Which again would be confusing because Team B gets points for taking wickets in the 2nd innings....?

I forgot to mention the new CMCA balls. Quality product was our's! It lasted 40 overs before the stitching gave away. 140-150 was scored up to this point, so it's not as if the ball was being belted around enough for it to split so early. That being said, it could simply be a coincidence that the first one was of poor quality. Can't really gauge the quality of the new product after one outing....
 
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Uncle Mick;269963 said:
I'm at a loss with that explanation. My assumption would be you meant .01 for a run therefore the 385 runs made would equate to 3.85 points. Plus 2 points for claiming 10 wickets and another 6 points for the win. All up should be 11.85 points to Team A? Or do they not accumulate points in their 2nd innings? Which again would be confusing because Team B gets points for taking wickets in the 2nd innings....?

I forgot to mention the new CMCA balls. Quality product was our's! It lasted 40 overs before the stitching gave away. 140-150 was scored up to this point, so it's not as if the ball was being belted around enough for it to split so early. That being said, it could simply be a coincidence that the first one was of poor quality. Can't really gauge the quality of the new product after one outing....

Yeah your right Mick, i confused myself that's how bad the system is.

Any way enough of VTCA, back to CMCA...
 
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Howdy Brett this is Saul from BDCC by the way!

Bonus points r as Not out explained...

It means no risk to bat on, with CMCA it's runs/wickets but in VTCA it's only runs scored so u can slog & b 4/40 off 2 overs & u pick up .4 & the other mob picks up .8. There is no stake at risk so it brings about absolutey crap cricket with no pressure at all.

The biggest joke is the Senior A ladder has had a team with 6 wins make the 4 while 1 with 7 missed out both of the last 2 years just cos of Bonus points.

The true stupididy of the VTCA is shown when u play a 1 day game (80 overs).

Team A makes 200 off 40 Team B makes 199 off 39. Team A has to go out & bat for the last over!!! (U don't lose 3 overs for the change in VTCA.)
A run in 'junk time' has an equal value as a 'live' run & a bonus point is counted just like a match point so is a real chance to pick up points...that measn everyone plays out the game to the end JIC other teams r picking up bonus points

So HW got an ump then Mick.. Apparently being the reigning runner-up is not enough to get u an ump in Woolnough.. fun way to start the year, umpiring yourselves!

If u had to umpire yourself West's r the team to do it againt, a fairer bunch of blokes u'd struggle to find!
 
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Sounds farcical.

As for the umps.. it looks as though there were a few games with 2 umpires in the lower grades. One can only assume there's a few new kids on the block being overseen by the old heads.
 
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Uncle Mick;269963 said:
I'm at a loss with that explanation. My assumption would be you meant .01 for a run therefore the 385 runs made would equate to 3.85 points. Plus 2 points for claiming 10 wickets and another 6 points for the win. All up should be 11.85 points to Team A? Or do they not accumulate points in their 2nd innings? Which again would be confusing because Team B gets points for taking wickets in the 2nd innings....?

I forgot to mention the new CMCA balls. Quality product was our's! It lasted 40 overs before the stitching gave away. 140-150 was scored up to this point, so it's not as if the ball was being belted around enough for it to split so early. That being said, it could simply be a coincidence that the first one was of poor quality. Can't really gauge the quality of the new product after one outing....

Uncle,
regarding the new balls, there are plenty of stories coming out today about the quality of them, '' or lack of it '', ANA made a big score against Union, but Unions ball was gone after about 40 overs.
Interesting that there has been a sub committee set up by the powers to check all the clubs balls '' parden the pun '' so all teams using them must mark them and hand them in for inspection.
I'm not sure what they are going to gain from that, and are they going to refund the price or supply a new replacement ball?
Why couldn't they stick with the same as whats been played with previously, or were they that bad as well?
Handing back the match balls, all that does is rob clubs of valuable training balls, only if there in good condition i suppose.
 
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Uncle Mick;269896 said:
Trying to get a rise out of someone on here....? "Biggie" Phelan is a champ. Good bloke who loves his cricket and obviously felt hard done by on the weekend. You'd be foolish to suggest anything more after one incident. As for Buddha, his record speaks for itself. Hardly consider him someone that struggles.

The good old Kookas were back to their best on Saturday. I think we dropped 6-7 catches. One of those catches cost us another 80 runs. A couple of fortunate lbw decisions went their way - no issue if there's consistency in the decisions this week. Some good clean hitting in the closing overs from Aspendale. Big ask to mow down 297 this week, but we'll give it a crack.

Anyone know what happened in the Hampton United v Southside game?


whatever mick.. ur not at east sandy now from what i gather u have gone back to where u are the big fish in a small pond? didnt get enough of the limelight around the corner mate? anyway mate u dont have to defend people from east sandy now u obviously didnt like them that much or else u would still be playing there!

anyway krotofil isnt that good mate he has never made runs against us and cant see any reason y he wont be out slogging again this year wen we play them
 
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Gday Saul, i am completely confused like everyone else on the topic. To see a team with 6 wins make the four ahead of a team with 7 is a Joke.

To CMCA nerd,

If you are going to make calls like that put your name out there ao when you meat damien through out the year we can see what your made of.
I don't know Phealan well enough to comment, but the rest of the boys seem fine to be at ESBC.
My only remark would be they at times they can be tardy when it comes to having a Beer with the opposition after the game, besides that i think there a good bunch of lads.
As regards to Mick, a bit unfair he has been childhood mates with the Dallas, Duddy, Bennet & co. And has played since junior cricket at West.
I don't even think his club West would begrudge him for leaving for 1 season to ESBC.
Everyone is quick to jump on players back about loyalty, but it does not seem to go the other way. Like in a work place people do need a change with a chance to refresh, i am sure Mick would be first to say the season away was a good exp to test himself out at the top and develop.
 
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cmca nerd;270052 said:
whatever mick.. ur not at east sandy now from what i gather u have gone back to where u are the big fish in a small pond? didnt get enough of the limelight around the corner mate? anyway mate u dont have to defend people from east sandy now u obviously didnt like them that much or else u would still be playing there!

anyway krotofil isnt that good mate he has never made runs against us and cant see any reason y he wont be out slogging again this year wen we play them

I'm no mate of your's. Big fish I may be, but my name's put to my posts. Weak sucks like yourself can sit and take pot shots from a behind keyboard as often as you like. With anonymity comes a lack of credibility.

Arch - that's an interesting concept with the balls. I would've thought if it ain't broke don't fix it, but I'm all for recognising significant contributions to the competition as they've done with Mssrs Champion and Park. Let's just hope they get it right before too long.
 
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