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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
Havent been on this site for a while and logged on tonite to see a whole load of shite again!!
Can't beleive the import debate has come up again. You think we have not worked hard over the last 8-10 years on our juniors??
We had a very lean patch in the late 90's where our juniors fell right away.
This caused a 'generation' gap for about 7-8 years with a lack of quality and numbers coming though to senior ranks.
We have sinced worked very hard to rectify this and we can now see qulaity numbers and ability coming through.
Yes our A grade are not as young or full of youngsters as we would have liked due to the large gap explained above which is soon to be filled by the up and coming youngsters in the coming few years.
We have probably 30 kids from 20yo to 15yo playing senior cricket now. ( in 5 snr teams)
Just for a glimpse I will go thru' our two top senior teams to show an example of how we are tracking: 16 of our top 22 are from our juniors at some stage.
Barclay Shield
P Barker 17 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
S Montalto 18 yo from Bundoora Juniors
JA Nicholas Team of century & long time player
ML Ravindra 21 yo SriLankan import
S Gibson Good mate of coach
SS Taggar Local uni student - walked in off street
J Carland Long term Bundoora player & ex junior
*B Dean Long term Bundoora player & ex junior
S Adams Long term Bundoora player & ex junior
+A Sing Long term Bundoora player & ex junior
GS Mann Local uni student - walked in off street
Barlclay Reserve
+L Dyson 16 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
M Dyson 18 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
J Flint 20 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
P Scott long time senior player
RX Dyson 15 yo - Bundoora Junior
*D Pendlebury long term senior and ex junior player
AJ White long term senior and ex junior player
T Goodman 18 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
R Adams long term senior and ex junior player
A Barker 20 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
B Odermatt 17 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
Our reserves side is symbolic of the structure of the rest of our club. 4-6 older blokes and 5-7 younger kids. We think the mix is about right.
We cannot play an A grade team full of just kids. No club can do this without significant senior support. Unfortunatley we didnt have this support in recent seasons and so yes we 'imported' a player or two over the past 3 years to help us remain competitive. No secrets here.
We experience the lows of relegation a few years back. Although we had a last minute reprieve and stayed in Barlcay, this only occurred in the last weeks before the season. The whle winter was spent trying to recruit players to a 2nd division club. Almost impossible.
We did not want to go there again!!
Note - There is not one kid who is not playing ones because of an 'import' being in his place.
These kids need to be ready and good enough to play at this level. They cannot just be given a game because they are young. Destroy their confidence because they are not ready and be lost to the game forever.
As 'Bundoora' has mentioned recruits rarely walk in off the street. District players want a fortune and as is proven are rarely worth it.
If we can manage to get our 2nd 'import' in Dinesh back here, he has told us he will stay with us for life. Hopefully Ravindra will too. Time will tell. Both are fantastic people and great to have around the kids.
Imports are not the right direction for all clubs, but necessary for some others that may not be blessed with the growing community areas such as Diamond Creek, Research, Mernda, Sth Morang (to name a few) areas which readily feed their junior programs. Our suburb (bundoora) is an old established area and junior numbers are sometimes hard to find without a lot of hard work.
We invest heavily in professional coaching for a majority of our juniors and younger senior players. We try to ensure that a majority of kids who complete the journey thru' from 12's - 16's have experienced several one on one paid coaching sessions during their time in the juniors. We have ensured all of our junior coaches are a minimum of level one accreditied as well. All this costs money - which we are proud and happy to invest.
Time will tell how successful our junior program has been over the past 8 years. I expect our A grade teams in the next 10 years to be full of ex junior players (maybe with an import or 2 as well).
Good luck to you and your club and however you wish to run it ( if indeed you are even willing to have a crack at getting involved), but don't throw shit at other clubs that have a plan of attack and are following that plan. Just because you dont agree with it.
Happy to discuss with you our plans if you want to call. You'll find me in the book under Bundoora - Pres.
THE ICEMAN;276676 said:
Havent been on this site for a while and logged on tonite to see a whole load of shite again!!
Can't beleive the import debate has come up again. You think we have not worked hard over the last 8-10 years on our juniors??
We had a very lean patch in the late 90's where our juniors fell right away.
This caused a 'generation' gap for about 7-8 years with a lack of quality and numbers coming though to senior ranks.
We have sinced worked very hard to rectify this and we can now see qulaity numbers and ability coming through.
Yes our A grade are not as young or full of youngsters as we would have liked due to the large gap explained above which is soon to be filled by the up and coming youngsters in the coming few years.
We have probably 30 kids from 20yo to 15yo playing senior cricket now. ( in 5 snr teams)
Just for a glimpse I will go thru' our two top senior teams to show an example of how we are tracking: 16 of our top 22 are from our juniors at some stage.
Barclay Shield
P Barker 17 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
S Montalto 18 yo from Bundoora Juniors
JA Nicholas Team of century & long time player
ML Ravindra 21 yo SriLankan import
S Gibson Good mate of coach
SS Taggar Local uni student - walked in off street
J Carland Long term Bundoora player & ex junior
*B Dean Long term Bundoora player & ex junior
S Adams Long term Bundoora player & ex junior
+A Sing Long term Bundoora player & ex junior
GS Mann Local uni student - walked in off street
Barlclay Reserve
+L Dyson 16 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
M Dyson 18 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
J Flint 20 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
P Scott long time senior player
RX Dyson 15 yo - Bundoora Junior
*D Pendlebury long term senior and ex junior player
AJ White long term senior and ex junior player
T Goodman 18 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
R Adams long term senior and ex junior player
A Barker 20 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
B Odermatt 17 yo - from Bundoora Juniors
Our reserves side is symbolic of the structure of the rest of our club. 4-6 older blokes and 5-7 younger kids. We think the mix is about right.
We cannot play an A grade team full of just kids. No club can do this without significant senior support. Unfortunatley we didnt have this support in recent seasons and so yes we 'imported' a player or two over the past 3 years to help us remain competitive. No secrets here.
We experience the lows of relegation a few years back. Although we had a last minute reprieve and stayed in Barlcay, this only occurred in the last weeks before the season. The whle winter was spent trying to recruit players to a 2nd division club. Almost impossible.
We did not want to go there again!!
Note - There is not one kid who is not playing ones because of an 'import' being in his place.
These kids need to be ready and good enough to play at this level. They cannot just be given a game because they are young. Destroy their confidence because they are not ready and be lost to the game forever.
As 'Bundoora' has mentioned recruits rarely walk in off the street. District players want a fortune and as is proven are rarely worth it.
If we can manage to get our 2nd 'import' in Dinesh back here, he has told us he will stay with us for life. Hopefully Ravindra will too. Time will tell. Both are fantastic people and great to have around the kids.
Imports are not the right direction for all clubs, but necessary for some others that may not be blessed with the growing community areas such as Diamond Creek, Research, Mernda, Sth Morang (to name a few) areas which readily feed their junior programs. Our suburb (bundoora) is an old established area and junior numbers are sometimes hard to find without a lot of hard work.
We invest heavily in professional coaching for a majority of our juniors and younger senior players. We try to ensure that a majority of kids who complete the journey thru' from 12's - 16's have experienced several one on one paid coaching sessions during their time in the juniors. We have ensured all of our junior coaches are a minimum of level one accreditied as well. All this costs money - which we are proud and happy to invest.
Time will tell how successful our junior program has been over the past 8 years. I expect our A grade teams in the next 10 years to be full of ex junior players (maybe with an import or 2 as well).
Good luck to you and your club and however you wish to run it ( if indeed you are even willing to have a crack at getting involved), but don't throw shit at other clubs that have a plan of attack and are following that plan. Just because you dont agree with it.
Happy to discuss with you our plans if you want to call. You'll find me in the book under Bundoora - Pres.
