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My thoughts on the NW finals series.
Week1:
Melton vs Broady - Melton will get the job done, previously played them in a 20Twenty and did it pretty easy (chasing down 120 2 down in the 17th over). Harwood was also not there for that game, he may stiffle Broady's strength being their top order batting. Melton easy.

Kew vs Plenty Valley - Kew did it easy two weeks ago, but I've heard from some of the PV boys Kew had the best of the conditions. With PVs bowling attach and this weeks weather, they are a massive chance. However Kew's batting has been good all year (except vs Melton) and will get the job done this week. Kew relatively comfortably.

Balwyn vs Altona - Obviously the closest contest of finals week 1. Last time they met, in even conditions Balwyn skittled Altona early and chased the 125 fairly comfortably. Balwyn, however, is generally a good wicket and with the small square boundries, it does lend itself to batting. Toss of the coin, Balwyn at home.
 
Have you gone quiet weapons because Rohan Smith told you to shut the hell up or because your miserable club has not one team in finals?
 
12345 said:
Have you gone quiet weapons because Rohan Smith told you to shut the hell up or because your miserable club has not one team in finals?
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MISERABLE..........pppfffftttt

3 jnr teams in g'f's this weekend so all is not lost good luck to players coaches and every 1 involved......:)

yep nothing to say dissapointing not making finals..... oh well let some1 else have a crack......ive been involved in finals the last 8 years or so and it hurts deep down dont worry about that........

good to see people still think of me cheers for that.....though your weak appology to the broady prez stands out as a winner for the left half back flanker position in the team of the year.......you 2 can wax off each other......as he has won the other half back flanker role.......good luck with that!!!!

melton plenty valley gf for me...........
 
Subbies for ever said:
And the rest of the games SS. You haven't lost interest have you?
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No mate, but season's over, so have to do some work!

Caulfield v Malvern: Like them or not (and I don't particularly like them), this is Malvern's time of the year. They always get up and have their best team on the park. Caulfield certainly have the best team on paper. Malvern's batting still up and down, have to pick Caulfield.

Oakleigh v Bayswater: Not sure how Bayswater got in after some disastrous games, good persistence. That being said, Oakleigh ripped them a new one last time they played. Only hope is if Pinwell & Travaglia don't play. Oakleigh.

Elsternwick v Box Hill: Two solid teams battling it out. Will be interesting to see if O'Neill gets up. O'Shea well and truly the key to this game. Elsternwick.
 
Subbies for ever said:
Heard that Ken Jacobs has been on the phone to a few of his old board members asking them to rethink their decision, he came out on the weekend stating it was a ludicrous idea and could mean the death of a few subbies clubs. He said they had forgotten where their roots are.
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Any feed back from latest subbies meeting on CV's response to the subbies submission to them re the annual dividend? Ken Jacobs' thoughts are shared by others and makes it doubly difficult to consider in depth at this stage the 2 tier comp concept. In considering the 2 tier concept it matters not whether Ken meant the 'death' would be the folding up of a number of subbies clubs or, that they would find another comp better suited to their needs. Either way, we would no longer be looking at a 28 club comp as the starting point for the division into 2 tiers.
 
Super Saint said:
See Ormond have already signed a new captain coach, Dale Christie. Well done, hope it results in some good improvement.
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Actually, Dale Christie (Pra/Hawks/Rich) has signed up as playing Coach. They have also signed up opening bowler Jayme Saleem from Hawks/Casey-Sth Melb in a playing/bowling coaching role.
 
Super Saint said:
No mate, but season's over, so have to do some work!

Caulfield v Malvern: Like them or not (and I don't particularly like them), this is Malvern's time of the year. They always get up and have their best team on the park. Caulfield certainly have the best team on paper. Malvern's batting still up and down, have to pick Caulfield.

Oakleigh v Bayswater: Not sure how Bayswater got in after some disastrous games, good persistence. That being said, Oakleigh ripped them a new one last time they played. Only hope is if Pinwell & Travaglia don't play. Oakleigh.

Elsternwick v Box Hill: Two solid teams battling it out. Will be interesting to see if O'Neill gets up. O'Shea well and truly the key to this game. Elsternwick.
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Cannot disagree. Only doubt is if Elsternwick have a collapse against Box Hills excellent opening attack. Caulfield will make too many runs and Oakleigh are strong across all fields.
 
weapons05/06 said:
MISERABLE..........pppfffftttt

3 jnr teams in g'f's this weekend so all is not lost good luck to players coaches and every 1 involved......:)

yep nothing to say dissapointing not making finals..... oh well let some1 else have a crack......ive been involved in finals the last 8 years or so and it hurts deep down dont worry about that........

good to see people still think of me cheers for that.....though your weak appology to the broady prez stands out as a winner for the left half back flanker position in the team of the year.......you 2 can wax off each other......as he has won the other half back flanker role.......good luck with that!!!!

melton plenty valley gf for me...........
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Mark Brown (aka "Weapons"),

I have watched with considerable interest over the past few weeks as you have endeavoured to bait and prod me with ongoing references to "the Broady Pres this, the Broady Pres that", "Half Back Flanker", "Team of the Year contender", etc. To be perfectly honest, I far prefer you, and others, referring to myself as opposed to my club, as a collective, or individual player representatives within my club.

Now, that said, in paying particular interest to your posts over recent weeks, can I offer some constructive feedback:

- through your own admission, you are one of, if not THE, most prolific contributors to this forum (your previous response to me elaborated upon how many posts/comments you had made/contributed over x period of time). As one of and potentially THE most prolific contributor to this forum can I request that you make a "best endeavours" commitment to use the Queens' English as it was intended. Basic spelling, grammar and punctuation, no more than that expected of someone with a Year 8 education, would be greatly appreciated by myself and others who are subjected to your ongoing musings (as intelligent, informed and entertaining as they are) within this forum

- you have frequently referred to myself AND others as "half back flankers". Whilst I am overjoyed with your announcement that I have been selected in the "team of the year" (I believe on the half back flank no less), could I request that you come up with something new when looking to dish out insults. As witty as your repertoire has been to date, please endeavour to produce something a little more "crisp" or "high brow" than comments that could easily be associated with the comic stylings of Hey, Hey It's Saturday and, the show's host, Darryl Sommers. Alternatively, here's a suggestion, rather than the generic insult(s) that you are most proficient at, seek an understanding of the individual or individuals for whom you are insulting and engage them with specifically tailored banter targeted to the individual in question

- on many of your posts, responses and general comments, you appear to go to a great length to point out and highlight your personal on-field achievements over what has been a most "distinguished" career. If my interpretation of your dross over the past month is correct, and please excuse me if I am wrong as I am not a smart man, you have been a 14 time Premiership Player (13 times as 12th man), have participated in finals over the past 8+ Seasons and, whilst not the player you once were, are still more than handy. In all seriousness Mark, for those that do not know you and to assist with public perception, can I suggest that you refer to achievements that were derived at a collective level rather than at the individual level. Unless I am mistaken, this forum has been established to discuss cricket and, specifically, the VSDCA. Not tennis. As such, you normally find that most individuals derive the greatest sense of satisfaction from achievements that are attained as a collective unit as opposed to those achieved as an individual. You presently represent a club that is fortunate enough to have representing them a player who has, arguably, had the greatest individual VSDCA record over the past decade. That said, amazingly, I have never found Craig needing to talk too or point out his distinguished list of personal achievements. Whilst there is no doubt that your 14 Premierships (13 as 12th man) is a most impressive achievement, for the benefit of all others within this forum, could I politely request that future efforts to massage one's own ego are confined to highlighting the collective achievements of the club(s) and team(s) that you represent.

Now Mark, your reponses/witty comments/half baked insults over recent weeks have been somewhat embarrassing, If you, again, refer to my initial and, until today, only post - you will note that I was merely taking a strong stance on behalf of my club and player representatives within the club. I was clarifying and correcting false information that was being aired in a public forum based on no more than rumour, innuendo and 3rd hand information. Certain individuals, yourself included, have thought it appropriate to insult and criticise me for my defence olf my club, my players and our collective brand. If needing to do so again, I will defend these same parties. It is important to note that I would never and will never pass comment (especially publicly) on ANY other club within the VSDCA nor make comment on ANY individual player within our proud Association. As such, this response is purely with regards to your ongoing comments/posts/witty remarks that are directed at both myself and anyone else within this forum that either; 1) disagrees with your always intellingent and informed opinion(s), or 2) contributes to this forum in written word that you seem unable or unwilling to comprehend and understand

I eagerly await your response where, undoubtably, you will feel the need to further regail myself and other readers of this forum with details of your distinguished on-field playing career.
 
weapons05/06 said:
though your weak appology to the broady prez stands out as a winner for the left half back flanker position in the team of the year.......you 2 can wax off each other......as he has won the other half back flanker role.......good luck with that!!!!
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Cripes Weapo Surely it was 12345's reply to the Sunshine Pres wasn't it that put him on the half back flank, and after the rave today Ben's gonna lose his half back flank and go straight into the first ruck! Perhaps even captain!
 
weapons05/06 said:
MISERABLE..........pppfffftttt

3 jnr teams in g'f's this weekend so all is not lost good luck to players coaches and every 1 involved......:)

yep nothing to say dissapointing not making finals..... oh well let some1 else have a crack......ive been involved in finals the last 8 years or so and it hurts deep down dont worry about that........

good to see people still think of me cheers for that.....though your weak appology to the broady prez stands out as a winner for the left half back flanker position in the team of the year.......you 2 can wax off each other......as he has won the other half back flanker role.......good luck with that!!!!

melton plenty valley gf for me...........
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Weapons, do you seriously think I give a flying fvck about what you think? Go and drag your miserable fat arse back to the couch, where you are when you're not waddling drinks out or embarrassing yourself and your club with the bs you carry on with in the field.
 
Ben Wood said:
Mark Brown (aka "Weapons"),

I have watched with considerable interest over the past few weeks as you have endeavoured to bait and prod me with ongoing references to "the Broady Pres this, the Broady Pres that", "Half Back Flanker", "Team of the Year contender", etc. To be perfectly honest, I far prefer you, and others, referring to myself as opposed to my club, as a collective, or individual player representatives within my club.

Now, that said, in paying particular interest to your posts over recent weeks, can I offer some constructive feedback:

- through your own admission, you are one of, if not THE, most prolific contributors to this forum (your previous response to me elaborated upon how many posts/comments you had made/contributed over x period of time). As one of and potentially THE most prolific contributor to this forum can I request that you make a "best endeavours" commitment to use the Queens' English as it was intended. Basic spelling, grammar and punctuation, no more than that expected of someone with a Year 8 education, would be greatly appreciated by myself and others who are subjected to your ongoing musings (as intelligent, informed and entertaining as they are) within this forum

- you have frequently referred to myself AND others as "half back flankers". Whilst I am overjoyed with your announcement that I have been selected in the "team of the year" (I believe on the half back flank no less), could I request that you come up with something new when looking to dish out insults. As witty as your repertoire has been to date, please endeavour to produce something a little more "crisp" or "high brow" than comments that could easily be associated with the comic stylings of Hey, Hey It's Saturday and, the show's host, Darryl Sommers. Alternatively, here's a suggestion, rather than the generic insult(s) that you are most proficient at, seek an understanding of the individual or individuals for whom you are insulting and engage them with specifically tailored banter targeted to the individual in question

- on many of your posts, responses and general comments, you appear to go to a great length to point out and highlight your personal on-field achievements over what has been a most "distinguished" career. If my interpretation of your dross over the past month is correct, and please excuse me if I am wrong as I am not a smart man, you have been a 14 time Premiership Player (13 times as 12th man), have participated in finals over the past 8+ Seasons and, whilst not the player you once were, are still more than handy. In all seriousness Mark, for those that do not know you and to assist with public perception, can I suggest that you refer to achievements that were derived at a collective level rather than at the individual level. Unless I am mistaken, this forum has been established to discuss cricket and, specifically, the VSDCA. Not tennis. As such, you normally find that most individuals derive the greatest sense of satisfaction from achievements that are attained as a collective unit as opposed to those achieved as an individual. You presently represent a club that is fortunate enough to have representing them a player who has, arguably, had the greatest individual VSDCA record over the past decade. That said, amazingly, I have never found Craig needing to talk too or point out his distinguished list of personal achievements. Whilst there is no doubt that your 14 Premierships (13 as 12th man) is a most impressive achievement, for the benefit of all others within this forum, could I politely request that future efforts to massage one's own ego are confined to highlighting the collective achievements of the club(s) and team(s) that you represent.

Now Mark, your reponses/witty comments/half baked insults over recent weeks have been somewhat embarrassing, If you, again, refer to my initial and, until today, only post - you will note that I was merely taking a strong stance on behalf of my club and player representatives within the club. I was clarifying and correcting false information that was being aired in a public forum based on no more than rumour, innuendo and 3rd hand information. Certain individuals, yourself included, have thought it appropriate to insult and criticise me for my defence olf my club, my players and our collective brand. If needing to do so again, I will defend these same parties. It is important to note that I would never and will never pass comment (especially publicly) on ANY other club within the VSDCA nor make comment on ANY individual player within our proud Association. As such, this response is purely with regards to your ongoing comments/posts/witty remarks that are directed at both myself and anyone else within this forum that either; 1) disagrees with your always intellingent and informed opinion(s), or 2) contributes to this forum in written word that you seem unable or unwilling to comprehend and understand

I eagerly await your response where, undoubtably, you will feel the need to further regail myself and other readers of this forum with details of your distinguished on-field playing career.
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bingo!!!!.......regail.........hahahaha

sorry i didnt get that...........can u say it again please!!!!........

in future ''weapo'' will do knackers......

and as been inducted into the team of the year.......you have won the '' caroline wilson'' award for writing the most dribble in the subbies thread........

you cleaned up........

cheers
 
12345 said:
Weapons, do you seriously think I give a flying fvck about what you think? Go and drag your miserable fat arse back to the couch, where you are when you're not waddling drinks out or embarrassing yourself and your club with the bs you carry on with in the field.
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surely you do.......hence my reply to your post about who........me.......????!!!

chin up son.......you'll be right!!!
 
Ben Wood said:
Mark Brown (aka "Weapons"),

I have watched with considerable interest over the past few weeks as you have endeavoured to bait and prod me with ongoing references to "the Broady Pres this, the Broady Pres that", "Half Back Flanker", "Team of the Year contender", etc. To be perfectly honest, I far prefer you, and others, referring to myself as opposed to my club, as a collective, or individual player representatives within my club.

Now, that said, in paying particular interest to your posts over recent weeks, can I offer some constructive feedback:

- through your own admission, you are one of, if not THE, most prolific contributors to this forum (your previous response to me elaborated upon how many posts/comments you had made/contributed over x period of time). As one of and potentially THE most prolific contributor to this forum can I request that you make a "best endeavours" commitment to use the Queens' English as it was intended. Basic spelling, grammar and punctuation, no more than that expected of someone with a Year 8 education, would be greatly appreciated by myself and others who are subjected to your ongoing musings (as intelligent, informed and entertaining as they are) within this forum

- you have frequently referred to myself AND others as "half back flankers". Whilst I am overjoyed with your announcement that I have been selected in the "team of the year" (I believe on the half back flank no less), could I request that you come up with something new when looking to dish out insults. As witty as your repertoire has been to date, please endeavour to produce something a little more "crisp" or "high brow" than comments that could easily be associated with the comic stylings of Hey, Hey It's Saturday and, the show's host, Darryl Sommers. Alternatively, here's a suggestion, rather than the generic insult(s) that you are most proficient at, seek an understanding of the individual or individuals for whom you are insulting and engage them with specifically tailored banter targeted to the individual in question

- on many of your posts, responses and general comments, you appear to go to a great length to point out and highlight your personal on-field achievements over what has been a most "distinguished" career. If my interpretation of your dross over the past month is correct, and please excuse me if I am wrong as I am not a smart man, you have been a 14 time Premiership Player (13 times as 12th man), have participated in finals over the past 8+ Seasons and, whilst not the player you once were, are still more than handy. In all seriousness Mark, for those that do not know you and to assist with public perception, can I suggest that you refer to achievements that were derived at a collective level rather than at the individual level. Unless I am mistaken, this forum has been established to discuss cricket and, specifically, the VSDCA. Not tennis. As such, you normally find that most individuals derive the greatest sense of satisfaction from achievements that are attained as a collective unit as opposed to those achieved as an individual. You presently represent a club that is fortunate enough to have representing them a player who has, arguably, had the greatest individual VSDCA record over the past decade. That said, amazingly, I have never found Craig needing to talk too or point out his distinguished list of personal achievements. Whilst there is no doubt that your 14 Premierships (13 as 12th man) is a most impressive achievement, for the benefit of all others within this forum, could I politely request that future efforts to massage one's own ego are confined to highlighting the collective achievements of the club(s) and team(s) that you represent.

Now Mark, your reponses/witty comments/half baked insults over recent weeks have been somewhat embarrassing, If you, again, refer to my initial and, until today, only post - you will note that I was merely taking a strong stance on behalf of my club and player representatives within the club. I was clarifying and correcting false information that was being aired in a public forum based on no more than rumour, innuendo and 3rd hand information. Certain individuals, yourself included, have thought it appropriate to insult and criticise me for my defence olf my club, my players and our collective brand. If needing to do so again, I will defend these same parties. It is important to note that I would never and will never pass comment (especially publicly) on ANY other club within the VSDCA nor make comment on ANY individual player within our proud Association. As such, this response is purely with regards to your ongoing comments/posts/witty remarks that are directed at both myself and anyone else within this forum that either; 1) disagrees with your always intellingent and informed opinion(s), or 2) contributes to this forum in written word that you seem unable or unwilling to comprehend and understand

I eagerly await your response where, undoubtably, you will feel the need to further regail myself and other readers of this forum with details of your distinguished on-field playing career.
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still havnt read it........hahahaha

but have had a few pm's......thats ''private messages'' in the queens lingo.......who is this muppet........?????
 
Ben Wood said:
Mark Brown (aka "Weapons"),

I have watched with considerable interest over the past few weeks as you have endeavoured to bait and prod me with ongoing references to "the Broady Pres this, the Broady Pres that", "Half Back Flanker", "Team of the Year contender", etc. To be perfectly honest, I far prefer you, and others, referring to myself as opposed to my club, as a collective, or individual player representatives within my club.

Now, that said, in paying particular interest to your posts over recent weeks, can I offer some constructive feedback:

- through your own admission, you are one of, if not THE, most prolific contributors to this forum (your previous response to me elaborated upon how many posts/comments you had made/contributed over x period of time). As one of and potentially THE most prolific contributor to this forum can I request that you make a "best endeavours" commitment to use the Queens' English as it was intended. Basic spelling, grammar and punctuation, no more than that expected of someone with a Year 8 education, would be greatly appreciated by myself and others who are subjected to your ongoing musings (as intelligent, informed and entertaining as they are) within this forum

- you have frequently referred to myself AND others as "half back flankers". Whilst I am overjoyed with your announcement that I have been selected in the "team of the year" (I believe on the half back flank no less), could I request that you come up with something new when looking to dish out insults. As witty as your repertoire has been to date, please endeavour to produce something a little more "crisp" or "high brow" than comments that could easily be associated with the comic stylings of Hey, Hey It's Saturday and, the show's host, Darryl Sommers. Alternatively, here's a suggestion, rather than the generic insult(s) that you are most proficient at, seek an understanding of the individual or individuals for whom you are insulting and engage them with specifically tailored banter targeted to the individual in question

- on many of your posts, responses and general comments, you appear to go to a great length to point out and highlight your personal on-field achievements over what has been a most "distinguished" career. If my interpretation of your dross over the past month is correct, and please excuse me if I am wrong as I am not a smart man, you have been a 14 time Premiership Player (13 times as 12th man), have participated in finals over the past 8+ Seasons and, whilst not the player you once were, are still more than handy. In all seriousness Mark, for those that do not know you and to assist with public perception, can I suggest that you refer to achievements that were derived at a collective level rather than at the individual level. Unless I am mistaken, this forum has been established to discuss cricket and, specifically, the VSDCA. Not tennis. As such, you normally find that most individuals derive the greatest sense of satisfaction from achievements that are attained as a collective unit as opposed to those achieved as an individual. You presently represent a club that is fortunate enough to have representing them a player who has, arguably, had the greatest individual VSDCA record over the past decade. That said, amazingly, I have never found Craig needing to talk too or point out his distinguished list of personal achievements. Whilst there is no doubt that your 14 Premierships (13 as 12th man) is a most impressive achievement, for the benefit of all others within this forum, could I politely request that future efforts to massage one's own ego are confined to highlighting the collective achievements of the club(s) and team(s) that you represent.

Now Mark, your reponses/witty comments/half baked insults over recent weeks have been somewhat embarrassing, If you, again, refer to my initial and, until today, only post - you will note that I was merely taking a strong stance on behalf of my club and player representatives within the club. I was clarifying and correcting false information that was being aired in a public forum based on no more than rumour, innuendo and 3rd hand information. Certain individuals, yourself included, have thought it appropriate to insult and criticise me for my defence olf my club, my players and our collective brand. If needing to do so again, I will defend these same parties. It is important to note that I would never and will never pass comment (especially publicly) on ANY other club within the VSDCA nor make comment on ANY individual player within our proud Association. As such, this response is purely with regards to your ongoing comments/posts/witty remarks that are directed at both myself and anyone else within this forum that either; 1) disagrees with your always intellingent and informed opinion(s), or 2) contributes to this forum in written word that you seem unable or unwilling to comprehend and understand

I eagerly await your response where, undoubtably, you will feel the need to further regail myself and other readers of this forum with details of your distinguished on-field playing career.
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Ben, please take on board Super Saints comment in response to your initial post. He said, inter alia: 'Finally, maybe I got this all wrong, but I thought this forum was used as a bit of a rumour file and some 'tongue in cheek' banter.
Cool it Ben. As president of a subbies club it is in both your, and your club's interests, to refrain from responding to a known harmless wag who must always have the last say no matter how stupid or puerile his comments may appear to be.
 
westland said:
Ben, please take on board Super Saints comment in response to your initial post. He said, inter alia: 'Finally, maybe I got this all wrong, but I thought this forum was used as a bit of a rumour file and some 'tongue in cheek' banter.
Cool it Ben. As president of a subbies club it is in both your, and your club's interests, to refrain from responding to a known harmless wag who must always have the last say no matter how stupid or puerile his comments may appear to be.
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Didn't all this hooha start because an umpire left the ground during a game and 2 palyers were subsequently suspended by the VSDCA. Seems to have been lost in translation. Anyway, lets move on and focus on the finals.
 
So results went pretty much to order except fourth beat third in each group. So it means Balwyn and Elsternwick must take on Melton and Caulfield as their punishment for losing. Most exciting statistic from all games was that for Bayswater, apart from Brad Schimleck who made 39, the other top eight batsmen made two runs between them (six ducks and two ones) and at one stage they were 8 for 17 and Pinwill at one stage had 5 for 3.
 
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