Williamstown and District Cricket Association (WADCA)

[Willi Comp]

Re: Williamstown and District Cricket Association (WADCA)

west newport have returned to willy comp fpr 08/09 season
will play a turf .to much travel in vtca

its a great result for the WADCA..

I would expect more clubs to follow in the next few years!

 

[Ifya Adballs]

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west newport have returned to willy comp fpr 08/09 season
will play a turf .to much travel in vtca

Not sure about the travel mate !!! More like the "heat in the kitchen"
Their 1sts have only won 6 games in 3 years, 2nds didn't win a game last year, and I think their 3rds only won 1.
Looks more like a desperate bid for survival.
Good luck to them. Karen and her small band do a great job against the odds.

 

[just cricket]

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The wouldnt make the top 4...

People get a bit carried away with VTCA.. they didnt do any good in that comp. They wont go back to WDACA and go any good..

Expect Wyndham Vale to improve again, along with laverton and Digman.. GU will be a good side again.. maybe Imps to stand up this year??

i wouldn't say to much i watch them play some games last year, very young side that will only get better and i hear they have picked up some handy players to help out the kids and dont forget they were in NA1 in vtca which is a good standard of cricket {top 5 sides anyway} GU the side to beat again
and the rest well its going to be a long year.(i think they will make the top 4)

 

[Willi Comp]

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i wouldn't say to much i watch them play some games last year, very young side that will only get better and i hear they have picked up some handy players to help out the kids and dont forget they were in NA1 in vtca which is a good standard of cricket {top 5 sides anyway} GU the side to beat again
and the rest well its going to be a long year.(i think they will make the top 4)

A good standard of cricket.. what is it with people in the VTCA? other than the top grade the rest is rank!
Alot of good players getting around but the it falls away pretty quick!
Its simialr to young blokes who think they are great playing district cricket! they fail to mention that they play in the 3rds and 4ths.
they might as well go back and play ones at their local clucbs!
VTCA is no different.. even if clubs in Nth A or B succeed, they go up a grade and get flogged! your club is going no where!
Look at the old Sunshine clubs, Sunshine United, St Albans, YCW, Druids etc, they are no better than they wre 6 years ago! if anything they are worse off.
Same as WADCA clubs. Seabrook, Werribe Cents, West newport, they have gone no where!
If West newport come back, i guarantee another 2 or 3 clubs will follow the next year!

 

[been there done that]

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A good standard of cricket.. what is it with people in the VTCA? other than the top grade the rest is rank!
Alot of good players getting around but the it falls away pretty quick!
Its simialr to young blokes who think they are great playing district cricket! they fail to mention that they play in the 3rds and 4ths.
they might as well go back and play ones at their local clucbs!
VTCA is no different.. even if clubs in Nth A or B succeed, they go up a grade and get flogged! your club is going no where!
Look at the old Sunshine clubs, Sunshine United, St Albans, YCW, Druids etc, they are no better than they wre 6 years ago! if anything they are worse off.
Same as WADCA clubs. Seabrook, Werribe Cents, West newport, they have gone no where!
If West newport come back, i guarantee another 2 or 3 clubs will follow the next year!

Having played in the vtca for many years, I think you will find that even the Nth A1 and 2 are playing reasonable standards. I have not played at that level, but the sides that have come up have been relativley competitive. Your comment about Sunny Utd is a little off the mark as they were a decent side 2-3 yeasr ago in Senior div. The reason that these sort of sides drift backwards is because of mostly 1 thing....$$$$$ or lack of. And it is getting worse, let me tell you. However, the strong will survive (with their juniors coming through) and the rest will struggle until something is done about the $$'s.

 

[just cricket]

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A good standard of cricket.. what is it with people in the VTCA? other than the top grade the rest is rank!
Alot of good players getting around but the it falls away pretty quick!
Its simialr to young blokes who think they are great playing district cricket! they fail to mention that they play in the 3rds and 4ths.
they might as well go back and play ones at their local clucbs!
VTCA is no different.. even if clubs in Nth A or B succeed, they go up a grade and get flogged! your club is going no where!
Look at the old Sunshine clubs, Sunshine United, St Albans, YCW, Druids etc, they are no better than they wre 6 years ago! if anything they are worse off.
Same as WADCA clubs. Seabrook, Werribe Cents, West newport, they have gone no where!
If West newport come back, i guarantee another 2 or 3 clubs will follow the next year!

Have you played vtca????
and who is my club (going nowhere)i can tell you apart from GU no other side in wdca would make the top 4 in north A1 from what i saw last year!!!!!

 

[Willi Comp]

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Having played in the vtca for many years, I think you will find that even the Nth A1 and 2 are playing reasonable standards. I have not played at that level, but the sides that have come up have been relativley competitive. Your comment about Sunny Utd is a little off the mark as they were a decent side 2-3 yeasr ago in Senior div. The reason that these sort of sides drift backwards is because of mostly 1 thing....$$$$$ or lack of. And it is getting worse, let me tell you. However, the strong will survive (with their juniors coming through) and the rest will struggle until something is done about the $$'s.

Exactly my point mate.. im not doubting they were a good side.
Drifitng backward because they dont have the money! Thats what the VTCA is about.. The higher the grade you go if your successful, the harder you will fall in the long run!
Those clubs arent getting any stronger..

 

[been there done that]

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Exactly my point mate.. im not doubting they were a good side.
Drifitng backward because they dont have the money! Thats what the VTCA is about.. The higher the grade you go if your successful, the harder you will fall in the long run!
Those clubs arent getting any stronger..

what is it with people in the VTCA? other than the top grade the rest is rank!

I was simply replying to the above quote

 

[Willi Comp]

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Have you played vtca????
and who is my club (going nowhere)i can tell you apart from GU no other side in wdca would make the top 4 in north A1 from what i saw last year!!!!!

I never stated your club is going no where.. i dont even know what club your from.
i was stating the fact, the sides that have gone on to VTCA arent any better than when they left their previous comp. whether that is SCA or WADCA. they are probably financially worse off as they need to pay cash to be competitve.
Ive played VTCA mate, i can assure you people rate it alot higher than they should!
The Senior A is a good standard! after that, there are a few good sides, but nothing to rave home about.
How do you even call it local cricket when local kids have to travel all over North West for a game of cricket..
The sooner clubs realsie they are better off locally the longer the chance they will survive in an era when all sporting clubs are struggling!

 

[gloves74]

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I never stated your club is going no where.. i dont even know what club your from.
i was stating the fact, the sides that have gone on to VTCA arent any better than when they left their previous comp. whether that is SCA or WADCA. they are probably financially worse off as they need to pay cash to be competitve.
Ive played VTCA mate, i can assure you people rate it alot higher than they should!
The Senior A is a good standard! after that, there are a few good sides, but nothing to rave home about.
How do you even call it local cricket when local kids have to travel all over North West for a game of cricket..
The sooner clubs realsie they are better off locally the longer the chance they will survive in an era when all sporting clubs are struggling!

Before every club jump ship to the VTCA the FCA,SCA and the WDCA were proably the strongest comps outside the VCA you had blokes coming straight out of VCA one's straight to local clubs unforunately that does not happen anymore and they try and sell themselves off to hte higest bidder in VTCA .Now I think West Newport know they made a mistake going to the VTCA and maybe Seabrook and Werribee Centrals will too.

 

[WDCAcricketer]

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Before every club jump ship to the VTCA the FCA,SCA and the WDCA were proably the strongest comps outside the VCA you had blokes coming straight out of VCA one's straight to local clubs unforunately that does not happen anymore and they try and sell themselves off to hte higest bidder in VTCA .Now I think West Newport know they made a mistake going to the VTCA and maybe Seabrook and Werribee Centrals will too.

Most of the SCA teams shot them selves in the foot, when they jumped ship to the VTCA, when in the end they pretty much played against each other, though this time in the VTCA they did not have as much say in how the comp is administered as in the local comp. Have to remember the SCA was still a very strong comp prior to folding. The WDCA clubs that crossed over are feeling the pinch too, with some of them struggling for last couple of years.

Now with not much hope for moving up the VTCA ranks unless you have lots of dollars in the bank, some are struggling to stay afloat. These clubs would be better off moving back to their local comps and spending their money on juniors and facilities instead on mercenaries.

Heights and YCW made the move back to local comps and l believe they were struggling in the VTCA and where at a point of folding. Heights turned it around with a ever expanding junior program and YCW looks like have turned the corner too.

Looking forward to playing against West Newport and hoping a few more teams jump back to the Willi Comp.

 

[gloves74]

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Most of the SCA teams shot them selves in the foot, when they jumped ship to the VTCA, when in the end they pretty much played against each other, though this time in the VTCA they did not have as much say in how the comp is administered as in the local comp. Have to remember the SCA was still a very strong comp prior to folding. The WDCA clubs that crossed over are feeling the pinch too, with some of them struggling for last couple of years.

Now with not much hope for moving up the VTCA ranks unless you have lots of dollars in the bank, some are struggling to stay afloat. These clubs would be better off moving back to their local comps and spending their money on juniors and facilities instead on mercenaries.

Heights and YCW made the move back to local comps and l believe they were struggling in the VTCA and where at a point of folding. Heights turned it around with a ever expanding junior program and YCW looks like have turned the corner too.

Looking forward to playing against West Newport and hoping a few more teams jump back to the Willi Comp.

Well said hopfully it will make your comp stronger the very best luck

 

[weapons05/06]

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i too played in the sca back in the day.....and left when my club went to the vtca.....why did clubs want to go to the vtca.......is the question........?????i know my club went to the vtca to play a good standard and also to get away from the likes of g/u and im sure others went away from the sca just the same.......im not bagging g/u ive been told this was the case.........now dont get me wrong g/u have done the right thing and stay local look at what they have achieved.....how many in a row have they won..........????......8????......great effort.......also my old club who was 1 of the sca powerhouses is now on the face of distinction and they won the flag last year...why because the
$$$$$ have run out and they got no kids comming through.... show's me 1 thing they should have stayed local saved the $$$$$$ and challenge g/u and they havnt gone the right way about a jnr program..........i believe the kids are the way out of a mess but if you dont have them its all over.........now all the people who were at the club when the move was on have left and it hasnt left the place in good stead cause all of the inhouse fighting..........why no $$$$$$$

cheers

 

[been there done that]

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i too played in the sca back in the day.....and left when my club went to the vtca.....why did clubs want to go to the vtca.......is the question........?????i know my club went to the vtca to play a good standard and also to get away from the likes of g/u and im sure others went away from the sca just the same.......im not bagging g/u ive been told this was the case.........now dont get me wrong g/u have done the right thing and stay local look at what they have achieved.....how many in a row have they won..........????......8????......great effort.......also my old club who was 1 of the sca powerhouses is now on the face of distinction and they won the flag last year...why because the
$$$$$ have run out and they got no kids comming through.... show's me 1 thing they should have stayed local saved the $$$$$$ and challenge g/u and they havnt gone the right way about a jnr program..........i believe the kids are the way out of a mess but if you dont have them its all over.........now all the people who were at the club when the move was on have left and it hasnt left the place in good stead cause all of the inhouse fighting..........why no $$$$$$$

cheers

Agree with most of your post. However, I can tell you that the VTCA would not allow GU in to play simply because of their rep, and I am sure everyone knows what I am talking about

 

[Willi Comp]

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Agree with most of your post. However, I can tell you that the VTCA would not allow GU in to play simply because of their rep, and I am sure everyone knows what I am talking about

There is alot of clubs in the VTCA who have carried on far worse than GU in their time..
Its become an old wives tail about GU and their Rep..

Its tall poppy syndrome.. Alot of people like to be critical of clebs/individuals who have success..

VTCA clubs will always criticse GU for being the big fish! i can only iamgine that alot of clubs are jealous and would quietly regret moving comps!

 

[Willi Comp]

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Well said hopfully it will make your comp stronger the very best luck

If the WADCA play their cards right they could have success in the next 5 years.. There is a window of opportunity for them moving forward to get quite a few local clubs back and finish up with a healthy competion with possibly 2 divisions..

Of all the clubs who left for the VTCA years ago i would wonder the strength of their junior programs??
People can bag GU all they like, they currently have about 5 junior sides, and have unlimited success in the past 7 years!

 

[dolz]

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West Newport will be alright, but should get beat by the top 3 or 4 sides in the comp.

NA1 in VTCA isn't a particularly strong comp apart from the teams who are just out to win a flag in terms of paying players to play.
I played in the A1 2 seasons ago and we didn't win a game which got boring at the end of the year, back at Wyndhamvale where i started now and enjoying cricket a heap more.
Hopefully the WDCA gets stronger, and I can sense GU starting to fall away after this season with a few players hinting at this being their last season

 

[Ifya Adballs]

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west newport have returned to willy comp fpr 08/09 season
will play a turf .to much travel in vtca

Good luck !!! - They will fit in well

From the VTCA website

Bradley Philpot - West Newport - suspended for 9 matches with 3 of those matches suspended until the end of the 2008/2009 season for breaching the VTCA's Code of Behaviour Item 1 - Conduct unbecoming to the game of Cricket, Item 4(i) - Threatening to assault another player, Item 4(j) - Physically assaulting another player, and Item 4(k) - engaging in an act of violence on the field.

Graeme Bennett - West Newport - suspended for 1 match for breaching each the VTCA's Code of Behaviour Item 4(d) - Using offensive or insulting language to another player, and Item 4(k) -engaging in an act of violence on the field. The sentences are to be served concurrently - totalling 1 match.

The committee determined, somewhat reluctantly, that the Captain Terry Onley did not have a case to answer, but asked Club representatives present (Brett Hooke and Karen Irving) to ensure the Club takes positives steps to ensure the Captain is aware of his responsibilities in terms of player behavior and that he is forthright in exercising his rights in this regard. The Club is to come back to the VTCA Executive with steps it has taken with Mr Onley in this matter.

 

[just cricket]

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philpot was kicked out of the club for what he did!!!
And who do you play for d*ckhead

 

[gloves74]

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philpot was kicked out of the club for what he did!!!
And who do you play for d*ckhead

He talks like a VTCA delegate