Wrist Spin Bowling (Part Two)

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that was a new video for me as well. ive heard Warne talk about all the same things in other videos, he pretty much did the same masterclass during the Sky Sports Ashes coverage this summer. talking about moving around the crease primarily.
 
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I would also be very tempted to bowl a big leg break outside leg stump and pray it would turn to avoid starting with a wide. Using this as a permanent line of attack though I feel would be dangerous, as umpires are very severe at anything wide of leg stump in limited overs cricket. Another ploy that would tempt me would be throwing a googly first up outside offstump, just to show the batsman that that is in the armoury. But finally I think I agree with Macca, I would prefer a line at off stump with a predominantely offside field. Had I had better control the line of attack would be much simpler.

Was reading part of grimmetts book at the dentists(ouch). He makes it sound so simple. Palm faces mid on for the topspinner, the square leg umpire for the small leg break. Then funnily enough he says the googly is bowled with the hand turned round farther than for the maximum leg break ( which should give the slider/backspinner). Ipresume he meant turn the wrist opposite to the big leg break unless he had a wrist like an indian rubber man. P 37 leg breaks and googlies from Grimmett on cricket
 
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I notice on page one on this website they are looking for a new mystery ball from us spinners. My kid has come up with a couple of his own and i reckon if you give anyone a ball for long enough they will too.
There is nothing new under the sun in spinbowling just about everything has been tried over the centuries, there are lots of deliveries that could be perfected but there is nothing "new" in spin bowling. Grimmett recognised that his flipper was bowled before underarm in England and Bosquanet said he was not the first to bowl the googly and as for the doosra that goes way back too, anyone can find them, perfecting them is another thing , that takes genius.
 
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sadspinner;378551 said:
I would also be very tempted to bowl a big leg break outside leg stump and pray it would turn to avoid starting with a wide. Using this as a permanent line of attack though I feel would be dangerous, as umpires are very severe at anything wide of leg stump in limited overs cricket. Another ploy that would tempt me would be throwing a googly first up outside offstump, just to show the batsman that that is in the armoury. But finally I think I agree with Macca, I would prefer a line at off stump with a predominantely offside field. Had I had better control the line of attack would be much simpler.

Was reading part of grimmetts book at the dentists(ouch). He makes it sound so simple. Palm faces mid on for the topspinner, the square leg umpire for the small leg break. Then funnily enough he says the googly is bowled with the hand turned round farther than for the maximum leg break ( which should give the slider/backspinner). Ipresume he meant turn the wrist opposite to the big leg break unless he had a wrist like an indian rubber man. P 37 leg breaks and googlies from Grimmett on cricket
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I noticed something confusing at that point as well in the book.
 
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I think that is from the 1948 book.

in the video Healey picked warnes the flipper from the thumb and that is how i pick my boys flipper when i keep to him.
 
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Macca this looks like it was on 9MSN is it still on there - I can't navigate my way round that website anymore, it used to be easy, but since they've updated I can't find anything on there - is this on there cos the quality here YouTube - shawarAusBowl is really poor?
 
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It's coming to the end of the year and I reckon we should update our 10 point wrist spin manifesto. Maybe we should name it slightly differently so that it comes up on Google more readily as it seems very few people refer to Wrist Spin in the correct vernacular? Maybe called it the Leg Spin manifesto - but then do we call it Legspin all one word or Leg spin with a gap - I don't even know the more popular way of spelling it.

Anyway what could the 10 points be, maybe we should all chip in with a few suggestions each and see how it goes?

Would we be limiting it's use by saying 10 point or could there be more?
 
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I have seen Terry Jenners ten point checklist for legspinners in a book here somewhere or at the library. One of them is "get yourself a good wicketkeeper" !
 
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Going to go and have a bowl on tomorrows game pitch if we can today. I always tell him to be thinking of bowling a maiden rather than taking wickets in that first over but he tries to do both he reckons.
He is as high in the bowling figures now almost half way through the comp rounds then he has ever been, maybe he will never be again this high. No 1 in his team ,N0 2 for his age group in the club and third in his competition division.
Only one other boy has bowled as many overs in his comp so far, there is this hot weather guideline that favours spinners slightly and his accuracy has made him the coaches " go to man". He bowled one wide last week in 5 overs the rest bowled 60 odd no balls and wides! I still cant believe that figure.
One of the reasons we will change clubs at the end of season is there are not many batsmen here good enough to build a total for a legspinner to bowl at. My old cub are looking for a young leggie and they have three champion bats his age.
 
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macca;378761 said:
I have seen Terry Jenners ten point checklist for legspinners in a book here somewhere or at the library. One of them is "get yourself a good wicketkeeper" !
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Never considered that one before even though it's obvious. I wonder if wicket keepers have preferences between keeping to fasts or spinners or if they're ever that dedicated at our kind of level that they'd be interested in spending time behind the stumps with a spinner?

No.1 - Get yourself a good wicket keeper.
 
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im hoping to get to know all of the guys at my club better in the pre-season. last year i joined the club toward the end of the season so no-one was bothering to practice by that point, and i didnt really meet that many of the players. hopefully i can establish who the best wicket keepers are and then try and work with them. the wicket keeper is absolutely the most important part of the team for a leg spinner. even if just for stumpings and appeals. if the keeper doesnt appeal an LBW then it never gets given, i cant stand wicket keepers that dont appeal EVERYTHING that is close. il only appeal if i think ive got a genuine shout, but i want my wicket keeper to appeal regardless just so that i know hes 100% going to back me up when ive got a genuine shout. and stumpings are easy wickets, and probably the most common chance at club level in my experience.

the 2nd most important thing is good umpires!!

the 3rd most important thing is either a very good tactical captain who favours leg spin. or a clueless captain who is easily influenced lol. the last thing you want is an average captain that thinks they know best because theyll set your field wrong and take you off the bowling just as youve got warmed up after youve been spanked for runs early doors but are now looking like taking a wicket with every ball.

what are the 10 items on Jenners checklist?
 
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Jim2109;378843 said:
im hoping to get to know all of the guys at my club better in the pre-season. last year i joined the club toward the end of the season so no-one was bothering to practice by that point, and i didnt really meet that many of the players. hopefully i can establish who the best wicket keepers are and then try and work with them. the wicket keeper is absolutely the most important part of the team for a leg spinner. even if just for stumpings and appeals. if the keeper doesnt appeal an LBW then it never gets given, i cant stand wicket keepers that dont appeal EVERYTHING that is close. il only appeal if i think ive got a genuine shout, but i want my wicket keeper to appeal regardless just so that i know hes 100% going to back me up when ive got a genuine shout. and stumpings are easy wickets, and probably the most common chance at club level in my experience.

the 2nd most important thing is good umpires!!

the 3rd most important thing is either a very good tactical captain who favours leg spin. or a clueless captain who is easily influenced lol. the last thing you want is an average captain that thinks they know best because theyll set your field wrong and take you off the bowling just as youve got warmed up after youve been spanked for runs early doors but are now looking like taking a wicket with every ball.

what are the 10 items on Jenners checklist?
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No.1 - Get yourself a good wicket keeper.
No.2 - Make sure you've got a captain that appreciates Wrist Spin as an attack weapon.

Both of these are things that are slightly out of our control so far!
 
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Practicing without a batsman
Good length and line
Accuracy
Having a plan for each batsman
Get good catchers in the side. I know all cliche, but important
 
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sadspinner;378873 said:
Practicing without a batsman
Good length and line
Accuracy
Having a plan for each batsman
Get good catchers in the side. I know all cliche, but important
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Accuracy and good line and length we can lump together as being Just having control over your bowling being able to put the ball onto a specific point with differing degrees of speed, flight and spin. How I can word that more concisely though is a bit of a task.

On the book front tried to order Grimmetts other book and the bloke said he'd sold it within the last 48 hours........ Gutted!
 
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No.1 - Get yourself a good wicket keeper.
No.2 - Make sure you've got a captain that appreciates Wrist Spin as an attack weapon.
No.3 - Practice without a batsman - but with a wicket keeper.
 
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sadspinner;378877 said:
Avoid left handers is another:D
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I think we covered that with the competent captaincy point, that might be a thread issue in the captaincy thread that's on the forum somewhere?
 
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Yep we'll have that one and now I've got to go and teach again

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No.1 - Get yourself a good wicket keeper.
No.2 - Make sure you've got a captain that appreciates Wrist Spin as an attack weapon.
No.3 - Practice without a batsman - but with a wicket keeper.
No.4 - Bowl into the Breeze.
 
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